View Poll Results: What is your stance on School Uniforms?

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  • Yes and the school should offer them at no extra cost.

    30 22.73%
  • Yes and the parents should pay for them.

    46 34.85%
  • They should be optional for students who want them

    2 1.52%
  • There should be school uniforms for specific activities only

    4 3.03%
  • We should leave it to the parents to decide if the school should have uniforms

    12 9.09%
  • We should leave it at municipal/state level

    10 7.58%
  • We shouldn't have school uniforms at all

    28 21.21%
  • I like the current way things are.

    8 6.06%
  • I hate uniforms

    11 8.33%
  • I'm a potato.

    16 12.12%
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Bodhisattva didn't make a valid point that warranted a response. because whether you recognize it or not, parents still have a say on any matter that goes on in their school districts. And when the majority reaches whatever direction in which to proceed is how things will be. My argument is only fallacious to you because you do not agree with it. But fortunately across this country more agree with me than they do with you for if they would be agreeing with you there would more schools mandating forced uniforms.
    here, the principal makes the decision for his/her school. they can choose to listen to or ignore parental in this matter of uniforms/dress codes
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    All the examples you quoted involve a person having a choice to choose a profession that involves wearing a uniform. Yes choice, an individual decision. Business dress is not a uniform but a reasonable dress code. Big difference.
    The big difference is between what you say here and what you said previously: "A dress code isn't the way the real world operates."

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    The big difference is between what you say here and what you said previously: "A dress code isn't the way the real world operates."
    Nota Bene, I could have done a better job of choosing my words. What I was trying to address is people in a free society dress the way they would like to. Especially in America, the melting pot, we have all manner of dress that originates from our cultural differences. Those from a Muslim background require head coverings for women. Those of Jewish background require the wearing of a yamaka during their holy days for males. An evangelical Christain may find the need to wear a tee shirt that quotes Scripture. Freedom of expressing any religion is often removed when mandatory uniforms are required. Also any political thought is removed as well. Whether it be a student sporting a Che tee shirt or a student wearing something like a 2nd Amendment right supporting the NRA. These beliefs especially from middle school up whether you agree with them or not are part of this individual trying to find himself among a smorgasbord of choicesl.

    I thought we were supposed to be inclusive, accepting and tolerant. Forcing uniforms on students denies them their individualism.
    Last edited by vesper; 08-16-13 at 11:49 PM.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    This whole argument, and a lot more like it, show one thing:
    Not all schools should be alike. Not all kids are alike.
    Parents should be able to choose their kids' schools from a variety of real choices. Schools should be able to set their own standards of achievement and behavior. Top down management, every school the same, choices made in the offices of bureaucrats, all that has to go. It is un american, inefficient, and unworkable.

    Imagine if you had to shop in the supermarket in your neighborhood, and were not allowed to travel to another. Just think what that would do with choice and with competition. It's just not the way we should be organizing our schools.

    Uniforms? Sure, here in this school. You don't like uniforms? Try the guys down the block. They don't require them.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    This whole argument, and a lot more like it, show one thing:
    Not all schools should be alike. Not all kids are alike.
    Parents should be able to choose their kids' schools from a variety of real choices. Schools should be able to set their own standards of achievement and behavior. Top down management, every school the same, choices made in the offices of bureaucrats, all that has to go. It is un american, inefficient, and unworkable.

    Imagine if you had to shop in the supermarket in your neighborhood, and were not allowed to travel to another. Just think what that would do with choice and with competition. It's just not the way we should be organizing our schools.

    Uniforms? Sure, here in this school. You don't like uniforms? Try the guys down the block. They don't require them.
    I agree as long as that is the case. But further down the road since our public education system is so reliant on the great and omnipotent Federal government.....you know how that carrot on a stick thing works where the Federal government sends the needed monies as long as the state complies with their wishes. Well all it is going to take is another progressive to implement mandatory uniforms from a federal level. Then what are you going to do? Homeschool?
    Last edited by vesper; 08-17-13 at 12:24 AM.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I agree as long as that is the case. But further down the road since our public education system is so reliant on the great and omnipotent Federal government.....you know how that carrot on a stick thing works where the Federal government sends the need monies as long as the state complies with their wishes. Well all it is going to take is another progressive to implement mandatory uniforms from a federal level. Then what are you going to do? Homeschool?
    Uniforms would probably be less of a problem than some of the other decrees that have already come from Washington. The top down control model is the root of the evils.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Uniforms would probably be less of a problem than some of the other decrees that have already come from Washington. The top down control model is the root of the evils.
    Excuse me but isn't mandatory uniforms from the top just as evil?

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Uniforms would probably be less of a problem than some of the other decrees that have already come from Washington. The top down control model is the root of the evils.
    I must say that I never thought of uniforms as "evil" before.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I must say that I never thought of uniforms as "evil" before.
    Well if you were in a position that you felt your children deserved their own right of expression, that individuality mattered and that government did not have a right to regulate or take away that right then maybe you too would consider it evil also.
    Last edited by vesper; 08-17-13 at 12:50 AM.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Well if you were in a position that you felt your children deserved their own right of expression, that individuality mattered and that government did not have a right to regulate or take that away then maybe you too would consider it evil.
    I have a child and if he had to wear a uniform, I wouldn't sweat it and neither would he. He would wear his uniform and go to school.

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