View Poll Results: What is your stance on School Uniforms?

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  • Yes and the school should offer them at no extra cost.

    30 22.73%
  • Yes and the parents should pay for them.

    46 34.85%
  • They should be optional for students who want them

    2 1.52%
  • There should be school uniforms for specific activities only

    4 3.03%
  • We should leave it to the parents to decide if the school should have uniforms

    12 9.09%
  • We should leave it at municipal/state level

    10 7.58%
  • We shouldn't have school uniforms at all

    28 21.21%
  • I like the current way things are.

    8 6.06%
  • I hate uniforms

    11 8.33%
  • I'm a potato.

    16 12.12%
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Thread: Do you support school uniforms?

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Considering my argument is about maintaining choice and yours is about having absolutely no choice it would seem to me that if you desire me to have meaty tomato sauce you would require I have it while I would say you can have it with or without the sauce.

    You would say everyone benefits from people eating meaty sauce and therefore everyone will eat meaty sauce while I would say it is desirable you eat meaty sauce but aren't required to do so.
    There are lots of choices to be made... the sad part is that you think that it is the children that should get to make them and not the adults.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Me too. One of the reasons to get enthused about returning to school was the idea you were going to some really cool shoes and new stuff to wear. Have you checked out the webpages that sell school uniforms? Man they certainly eliminate the ability to express a personality through your clothing. Even the colors are bland. Sorta like spaghetti with no sauce. And as far as the student that is less than motivated to go to school, the clothing isn't going to help that situation for sure. I think I'll do a little research on inner city schools that have gone to uniforms and see if it has helped their huge dropout rates.
    Oh yeah, thats the reason for being enthused about returning to school...showing off your new wardrobe. Sheesh. Going to school is a kid's "job." You should be enthused about learning something to get yourself ahead in this world.

    Sounds much like exactly the kinda thing our kids are going to be learning these days...overconfidence based on trying to make a good first "wardrobe" impression. LOL
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Oh yeah, thats the reason for being enthused about returning to school...showing off your new wardrobe. Sheesh. Going to school is a kid's "job." You should be enthused about learning something to get yourself ahead in this world.

    Sounds much like exactly the kinda thing our kids are going to be learning these days...overconfidence based on trying to make a good first "wardrobe" impression. LOL
    Hopefully you are not an educator because an attitude like yours is a no starter and a total FAIL. Not all kids are enthused about learning. Tell them they have to wear a friggen uniform and that may be the cherry on the sundae that breaks them.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Oh yeah, thats the reason for being enthused about returning to school...showing off your new wardrobe. Sheesh. Going to school is a kid's "job." You should be enthused about learning something to get yourself ahead in this world.

    Sounds much like exactly the kinda thing our kids are going to be learning these days...overconfidence based on trying to make a good first "wardrobe" impression. LOL
    I am just a normal dumb guy but I can't remember anybody dressing up or wearing new stuff for school. We wore what we were wearing for the last few weeks... just clothes. Washed, of course. Surf shirts and shorts. If some kid had some flash new shoes wwe would have made fun of him. Girls? No idea. My girlfriend just seemed to dress the same too though...
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Hopefully you are not an educator because an attitude like yours is a no starter and a total FAIL. Not all kids are enthused about learning. Tell them they have to wear a friggen uniform and that may be the cherry on the sundae that breaks them.
    I am an educator. Been teaching for over ten years. Private school. Public school. Gang infested inner city school. Two different countries. Schools with and without uniforms. My experience most like trounces yours into a billion pieces. The first year or two kids might complain, then they get used to it. The younger they are the more that they could care less too...
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Hopefully you are not an educator because an attitude like yours is a no starter and a total FAIL. Not all kids are enthused about learning. Tell them they have to wear a friggen uniform and that may be the cherry on the sundae that breaks them.
    Well, you're in luck. I am not NOW an educator. I was one for five years though, does that count? I was also a Primary School student for 18 years too...including periods when they did require strict dress codes in some schools I attended.

    One thing I did learn as a educator, if a kid is not interested in learning its MY JOB to fix that, not ignore it. DUH!
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    They are kids. We tell them what to do all the time. What thye can and can't wear. Why should school be any different. You sound kinda like a drama queen, no offense. Stop being so dramatic. Dress codes and uniforms work just fine. Kids don't care.
    Excuse me if you think students don't care then they are under 10 and don't know that their parents have agreed to dismantle their 1st amendment rights.

    I've listen to the proponents of school uniforms claiming they would instill discipline and prevent gang-related violence. They say uniforms and some dress codes lessen peer pressure aggravated by socioeconomic divisions. This debate has been raging for over a decade and there is no proof that is the case. But what it does do is teach these minds of mush making them all dress like one another is that everyone should be socioeconomically equal. That spread the wealth and social justice (the foundation of socialism) is just and right.

    In Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969). In this famous decision, the Court ruled 7-2 that public school officials could not censor student expression — the wearing of black armbands, in that case — unless they could reasonably forecast that the student expression would cause substantial disruption or material interference with school activities or would invade the rights of others. The black arm bands were in protest to the Vietnam war. Several school distrists have overcome zealots in their communities trying to implement school uniform by using this case. May they continue to have success.

    And as for you dress your kid(s) in their uniforms and let their little minds of mush be indoctrinated.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    ACLU has fought successfully for kids to wear hats in some high schools but stopped at the classroom when warned of the blowback from Veterans' groups due to classrooms with flags. Now have fun "EACH" period telling teenagers to take off hats when entering and leave them off. Total distraction.
    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Hopefully you are not an educator because an attitude like yours is a no starter and a total FAIL. Not all kids are enthused about learning. Tell them they have to wear a friggen uniform and that may be the cherry on the sundae that breaks them.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Well, you're in luck. I am not NOW an educator. I was one for five years though, does that count? I was also a Primary School student for 18 years too...including periods when they did require strict dress codes in some schools I attended.

    One thing I did learn as a educator, if a kid is not interested in learning its MY JOB to fix that, not ignore it. DUH!
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    Well then show them the 6 or so colors of polo shirts you want them to wear and see if that helps get them interested in attending class duh!! Good luck with that one.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    33 years + 4 more retired but still teaching in some aspects; you must have forgotten or never felt the sting of being made fun of due to cliques and not having the latest trends; have you noticed how short the shorts are on girls these days; perverts have
    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Hopefully you are not an educator because an attitude like yours is a no starter and a total FAIL. Not all kids are enthused about learning. Tell them they have to wear a friggen uniform and that may be the cherry on the sundae that breaks them.

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