View Poll Results: What is your stance on School Uniforms?

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  • Yes and the school should offer them at no extra cost.

    30 22.73%
  • Yes and the parents should pay for them.

    46 34.85%
  • They should be optional for students who want them

    2 1.52%
  • There should be school uniforms for specific activities only

    4 3.03%
  • We should leave it to the parents to decide if the school should have uniforms

    12 9.09%
  • We should leave it at municipal/state level

    10 7.58%
  • We shouldn't have school uniforms at all

    28 21.21%
  • I like the current way things are.

    8 6.06%
  • I hate uniforms

    11 8.33%
  • I'm a potato.

    16 12.12%
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I think they're a great idea for most schools.

    They boost integration and respect and I also think they should be free of charge for the parents initially. Each student should have 3 (random number > 1) school uniforms given by the school at the sizes of the student and if the parents want additional school uniforms, they should pay for them.

    So what do you think?
    If someone forced me as a kid to wear a uniform I would have hated their guts. Just sayin'..

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If someone forced me as a kid to wear a uniform I would have hated their guts. Just sayin'..
    You would have probably hated their guts for providing a limited lunch menu instead of a vast buffet where you could have unlimited choice to your heart's desire.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    I support eliminating socialized schools, and then people could choose whether they want to school with uniforms or a school without uniforms.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    You would have probably hated their guts for providing a limited lunch menu instead of a vast buffet where you could have unlimited choice to your heart's desire.
    I never ate lunch provided in high school. There was an ice cream shop right down the road next to a burger joint. I would drop in and get a burger and finish it off with some ice cream. A hell of a lot better than whatever the **** they were serving at school. Ewww. As for the other grades, I would bring my own lunch.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    No you really don't have it correct you really don't have a clue. But thank you for your response as it is a steller examples of collectivist thought. Collectivism holds that, in human affairs, the collective—society, the community, the nation, the proletariat, the race, etc.—is the unit of reality and the standard of value. On this view, the individual has reality only as part of the group, and value only insofar as he serves it.
    Right, you should be able to say any hateful thing about a class of citizens based solely upon their membership (voluntary or involuntary) to that class, but no one should be allowed to say anything hateful to you for your specific actions.

    In other words, everyone should have freedom of speech, and "everyone" means everyone who thinks just like you. Got it. So you go on spouting your ridiculous nonsense to justify the hypocritical nature of your outrage and I'll be over here noting said hypocrisy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Considering my argument is about maintaining choice and yours is about having absolutely no choice
    Absolutely there is a choice. You have the choice to move to a different district. You have the choice to pay out-of-district tuition. You have the choice to enroll in a different school.

    Or, in the case of my school, you have the choice of different colors for both your shirt and bottoms. Wear whatever shoes you'd like, so long as they are not flip flops.

    You have plenty of choices.

    it would seem to me that if you desire me to have meaty tomato sauce you would require I have it while I would say you can have it with or without the sauce.
    Ahh, but if we were sharing this meal and we both like meaty tomato sauce, would we not have it? If I demand it and you enjoy it but don't demand it, we still have it and we both agree it tastes better.

    Dress codes make the learning environment better. Is it necessary for order? No, but it certainly helps. Is meaty tomato sauce necessary for good spaghetti? No, but it certainly helps.

    You would say everyone benefits from people eating meaty sauce and therefore everyone will eat meaty sauce while I would say it is desirable you eat meaty sauce but aren't required to do so.
    And if everyone benefits from dress code/meat sauce, it seems pretty clear to me what we should have for dinner.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Right, you should be able to say any hateful thing about a class of citizens based solely upon their membership (voluntary or involuntary) to that class, but no one should be allowed to say anything hateful to you for your specific actions.

    In other words, everyone should have freedom of speech, and "everyone" means everyone who thinks just like you. Got it. So you go on spouting your ridiculous nonsense to justify the hypocritical nature of your outrage and I'll be over here noting said hypocrisy.
    Oh I get it alright. Just like you flippantly concluded I was a racist among other things because I find your PC over the top. It's these kinds of statements used by people like you who are causing many to not voice or write what they really think because they fear the retaliation. It's quite a scam you got going. You stand on your soapbox declaring free speech for all while using tactics that amount to censorship of those who don't agree with you. You want to see a hypocrite, look in a mirror.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Oh I get it alright.
    Your posting suggests otherwise.

    Just like you flippantly concluded I was a racist among other things because I find your PC over the top.
    I did no such thing. I noted the fact in my experiences it is those who are prejudiced who are most likely to hate political correctness because they get "attacked" for their prejudiced views. I merely asked if you were one of them.

    It's these kinds of statements used by people like you who are causing many to not voice or write what they really think because they fear the retaliation.
    Let me tell you now my heart is breaking at the thought of hate mongers not spewing their ignorant venom, causing emotional harm to people who have done nothing to deserve it. Breaking, I tell you.
    It's quite a scam you got going. You stand on your soapbox declaring free speech for all while using tactics that amount to censorship of those who don't agree with you.


    Says the person trying to shut everyone who disagrees with him/her up.

    You want to see a hypocrite, look in a mirror.
    I'm not a hypocrite at all. I'm not the one telling you that you cannot spew your prejudiced hatred (if you are indeed prejudiced), I'm simply saying if you have the right to say what you want, I have the right to accurately call you out on it.

    There's nothing hypocritical about my position at all. You are the one who complains about feeling silenced and wants your opposition to be silenced. Feel free to use your prejudiced terminology (again, if you are indeed prejudiced), just understand I'm going to feel free to note how prejudiced you are.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If someone forced me as a kid to wear a uniform I would have hated their guts. Just sayin'..
    Me too. One of the reasons to get enthused about returning to school was the idea you were going to some really cool shoes and new stuff to wear. Have you checked out the webpages that sell school uniforms? Man they certainly eliminate the ability to express a personality through your clothing. Even the colors are bland. Sorta like spaghetti with no sauce. And as far as the student that is less than motivated to go to school, the clothing isn't going to help that situation for sure. I think I'll do a little research on inner city schools that have gone to uniforms and see if it has helped their huge dropout rates.

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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Me too. One of the reasons to get enthused about returning to school was the idea you were going to some really cool shoes and new stuff to wear. Have you checked out the webpages that sell school uniforms? Man they certainly eliminate the ability to express a personality through your clothing. Even the colors are bland. Sorta like spaghetti with no sauce. And as far as the student that is less than motivated to go to school, the clothing isn't going to help that situation for sure. I think I'll do a little research on inner city schools that have gone to uniforms and see if it has helped their huge dropout rates.
    Uniforms do nothing to make a kid not want to go to school. The entire notion is ridiculous.
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    Re: Do you support school uniforms?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Maybe our definitions of PC differ. Some hold it to basically be related to race and gender. And if that is the case then my post isn't going to make sense. PC has become a tool of censorship. When you have to censor your own words and thoughts or even your clothes to accommodate to someone else's sensitiveness over anything from politics to religion, then you no longer have the right to express yourself freely. We are now at the point where bad manners are a crime punishable by law. I understand the need for some type of dress code in public schools but to force them to wear uniforms combined with the censorship of their words and thoughts takes away just about every means of expression they have.
    They are kids. We tell them what to do all the time. What thye can and can't wear. Why should school be any different. You sound kinda like a drama queen, no offense. Stop being so dramatic. Dress codes and uniforms work just fine. Kids don't care.
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