View Poll Results: Is communism possible in the USA?

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  • Yes, Soviet type of communism

    12 10.62%
  • Yes, community type of communism

    14 12.39%
  • Yes, religious type of communism

    2 1.77%
  • Yes, other type of communism

    14 12.39%
  • No, not possible

    61 53.98%
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by polisciguy View Post
    Interesting point. Marx always spoke of the "temporary dictatorship" during the regime change, but I certainly cannot think of a country that ever got past that point.
    Dictatorship the way Marx meant it versus the way Lenin meant it, doesn't seem the same. I think Marx's idea of a dictatorship was that of the working class would hold political and economic control over the oppressors and capitalists, within a democratic system. The protalitariots are the dictators.

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    Whereas Lenin's idea of a dictatorship was to have a small group of vanguard protalitariots to have complete political and economic control over everyone.

    As I understand Marx's theory, the bourgeoisie would overthrow the wealthy and the powerful. I assume the bourgeoisie are the upper middle classes such as property and business owners. Then eventually, the lower working classes and the poor would swamp all of the upper classes and somehow - he wasn't very clear - completely collapse society and create communism. Does that sound about right to you?

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The principles of communism always seems to be used by despots to get popular support of the working class and the poor....and once that power is gained it becomes a totalitarian dictatorship. I think that is one of the reasons people say communism was never really put into practice. To this day, it's still just a theory.
    Communism has been tried in many countries. The results have been universally disastrous and very bloody.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    To save the poll from influence, I will spare my opinion for the time being.

    So, is communism possible in the USA?
    Of course.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Communism has been tried in many countries. The results have been universally disastrous and very bloody.
    It's never been tried.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    It's never been tried.
    Having trouble with reality?

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Having trouble with reality?
    Just your historical revisionism.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Just your historical revisionism.
    Quite funny, since I'm sticking to historical facts and you choose to deny them.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    It's never been tried.
    Having trouble with reality?
    That's pretty much the standard apologetic for Communism—to claim that since every attempt failed so disastrously, that those who tried to implement it must have gone about it the wrong way, and that therefore, what they did doesn't count as a genuine attempt to put Communism into practice.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Quite funny, since I'm sticking to historical facts and you choose to deny them.
    Curious then that your facts should have no basis in..ya know..fact.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    That's pretty much the standard apologetic for Communism—to claim that since every attempt failed so disastrously, that those who tried to implement it must have gone about it the wrong way, and that therefore, what they did doesn't count as a genuine attempt to put Communism into practice.
    Yes I know. I've seen it very often. Never underestimate the capacity of ideologically obsessed people to be blind to the facts.

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