View Poll Results: Is communism possible in the USA?

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  • Yes, Soviet type of communism

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  • Yes, community type of communism

    14 12.39%
  • Yes, religious type of communism

    2 1.77%
  • Yes, other type of communism

    14 12.39%
  • No, not possible

    61 53.98%
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Org View Post
    That has very little to do with who owns the land - more like laws and individual preferences. If one people owns it, or if ten do, negotiations can still occur, they can still sell it. the government can still force them to move, communities can still choose what to do democratically, and so on.

    Here's a question for you: how are private and group property different in this case?
    There is literally no difference. The way you are describing group property is just like Incorporation.... another evil facet of Capitalism.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    There is literally no difference. The way you are describing group property is just like Incorporation.... another evil facet of Capitalism.
    Not at all. This analysis is all about who owns property with the capability of generating wealth. In capitalism, it's private capitalists. In feudalism, it was aristocrats. In socialism, it's workers.

    I'm describing socialism, and my advocacy of markets doesn't change that.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Org View Post
    Not at all. This analysis is all about who owns property with the capability of generating wealth. In capitalism, it's private capitalists. In feudalism, it was aristocrats. In socialism, it's workers.

    I'm describing socialism, and my advocacy of markets doesn't change that.
    What is the difference between a private capitalist and a successful worker?

    To be honest, every socialist argument, point, idea, or thought all looks exactly like capitalism to me, only with different people in the top spots; replace the current aristocracy of wealth with another aristocracy of control. And make sure to sound really hopeful and idealistic while selling it.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Is communism possible in the U.S.? Sure it is......when you have so many ignorant sheeple in our society that can't even recognize socialism which according to Marx is the stepping stone to Communism, what's stopping it?

    In regard to the posts on capitalism- What is practiced in this country today could be called modified capitalism, socialized capitalism, regulated capitalism, government-controlled capitalism, corporatism, soft fascism. Essentially they're all the same thing.

    I think the term that bests describes what we have today is corporatism where big business is in bed with big government. Go check out the list of fortune 500 companies and start counting all those who are government subsidized.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    What is the difference between a private capitalist and a successful worker?

    To be honest, every socialist argument, point, idea, or thought all looks exactly like capitalism to me, only with different people in the top spots; replace the current aristocracy of wealth with another aristocracy of control. And make sure to sound really hopeful and idealistic while selling it.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    The successful worker actually does the work.
    only if the successful Capitalist needs him to do some work

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    only if the successful Capitalist needs him to do some work
    I don't believe that is necessary for workers to work.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    I don't believe...
    I believe your beliefs and reality need not have even a casual acquaintance, I don't think they even have coffee together.

    which is more important to an economy
    wage slaves
    consumers
    or businessmen to turn the product of the workers activity into products and services
    that the consumers will purchase at a price that the businessman can generate a profit from?

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    I believe your beliefs and reality need not have even a casual acquaintance, I don't think they even have coffee together.


    wage slaves of the workers ?
    I think everyone would be better of if the elite would give a hand in the production.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    I think everyone would be better of if the elite would give a hand in the production.
    Obama is working as hard as he can, man

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