View Poll Results: Is communism possible in the USA?

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  • Yes, religious type of communism

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  • Yes, other type of communism

    14 12.39%
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    Why should an officer only do two tours then get promoted, while the enlisted has multiple tours and still gets paid the same.
    perhaps there are far more people available who can take orders and follow,
    than there are those who are capable of leading men and successfully completing the mission?

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    What country do you live in? Here in the United States you can start a business with zero dollars.
    In fact when I found myself unemployed my customers threw money at me so I could continue serving them but that's a story for another thread?

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    Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    No, you need a down payment and have good credit for the average person.
    That is NOT correct. You can start many service-providing businesses with ZERO dollars. One example would be a dog-walking service. The types of services you can market are limited only by your imagination, marketing skills and drive. I work from home for myself with a business that I started years ago with less than 100 bucks.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    That Bull he's one of those evil Rich let's make cheezburgers outta him!

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    That statement is false at face value and is so absurd that you basically label yourself a kook to anyone with a little sense just by posting it.
    Wrong again, when the rich collects money at the top that is causes low monetary velocity. Which means that the money is not getting back into the economy. Its the middle class who grow the economy because they are consumers not collectors. This is called the redistributive effect, which doesn't happen when the rich collects it all. Thats why I showed the chart where in 1929 the rich collect 44% which cause the great depression.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    No, you need a down payment and have good credit for the average person.
    No, that's for a business loan. Many people start a business with their own savings. I don't recommend anyone attempt to start a business if they aren't able to save enough to start the business, or able to secure investment or credit to start the business. You can, but it would be like getting up off your couch and trying out for the Olympics with zero training.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    It shows the tension between officers and enlisted. The enlisted and NCO's does most of the work and get paid the least. The second lieutenant does paper work and gets paid the same as an E-4. The conflict of interest is ignore, if the enlisted got paid more than their grossly low salary, then tensions would ceased. Why should an officer only do two tours then get promoted, while the enlisted has multiple tours and still gets paid the same.
    and just how long have you been in the military? I haven't seen much of this alleged "tension". I spent a total of 11 years as an enlisted puke. Been commissioned for 10 years. I can tell you that a 2LT does far more than "paperwork". common misconception by those without a clue how things get done. **** just doesn't happen by magic.

    and as far as promotions....unless you are a complete ****-up, enlisted get promoted faster than officers. I enlisted in 1984. came in as an E3. got out after desert storm in 1992 as an E6 and I had been busted from E5 to E4 twice because I was a smart ass and couldn't keep my mouth shut. got back into the Guard in 2000 as an E4 (had to take a voluntary reduction to get back in) and made it back to E6 shortly before I got commissioned in 2003.

    I was promoted 7 times in 11 years as an enlisted guy. I am now a Major. been promoted 3 times in 10 years as an officer.

    I can tell you from personal experience that I have worked harder and longer hours as an officer than I ever worked as enlisted. When I was in Iraq, we'd run missions all day and then the enlisted guys would be "off-duty" until the next morning while the officers got to stay up and work for another 3-4 hours planning/coordinating the missions for the next day.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    hmm sounds like a value proposition there eh?
    why would a CEO receive greater compensation than a janitor?
    Talent and hard work are qualitative factors which cannot be measured quantitatively.

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    They shouldn't, janitors work physically harder than ceos.Ceos don't even exert mental fatigue.They have advisors. The fact that conservatives view people "lower" than them in the social class suggest a primitive mindset.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and just how long have you been in the military? I haven't seen much of this alleged "tension". I spent a total of 11 years as an enlisted puke. Been commissioned for 10 years. I can tell you that a 2LT does far more than "paperwork". common misconception by those without a clue how things get done. **** just doesn't happen by magic.

    and as far as promotions....unless you are a complete ****-up, enlisted get promoted faster than officers. I enlisted in 1984. came in as an E3. got out after desert storm in 1992 as an E6 and I had been busted from E5 to E4 twice because I was a smart ass and couldn't keep my mouth shut. got back into the Guard in 2000 as an E4 (had to take a voluntary reduction to get back in) and made it back to E6 shortly before I got commissioned in 2003.

    I was promoted 7 times in 11 years as an enlisted guy. I am now a Major. been promoted 3 times in 10 years as an officer.

    I can tell you from personal experience that I have worked harder and longer hours as an officer than I ever worked as enlisted. When I was in Iraq, we'd run missions all day and then the enlisted guys would be "off-duty" until the next morning while the officers got to stay up and work for another 3-4 hours planning/coordinating the missions for the next day.
    You just said that you were an enlisted puke. The fact you use that language shows that even you believe enlisted are inferior.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    He said with zero money,

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