View Poll Results: Is communism possible in the USA?

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  • Yes, Soviet type of communism

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  • Yes, community type of communism

    14 12.39%
  • Yes, religious type of communism

    2 1.77%
  • Yes, other type of communism

    14 12.39%
  • No, not possible

    61 53.98%
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Only the rich acknowledge it. It's a war the left is hell-bent on waging. Class-envy is a terrible thing, but it's human nature. People see what they don't have and they want it. They don't see what it took to get it and most sure as HELL don't care about doing what it takes to get it, but they still want the reward. That's why we have police and court systems and prisons. Without them, many of the have-nots that lack the work ethic to achieve the rewards they wish themselves also lack the decency not to act on their baser impulses. The prisons are full of people that fail to follow such rules and are unable to resist the temptation to steal what they want instead of working for it like everyone else.

    No its because they do not have enough money to live, while the rich have enough to exceed. As the rich has more money the economy fails.



    Year Bottom 99% Top 1%
    1922 63.3% 36.7%
    1929 55.8% 44.2%
    1933 66.7% 33.3%
    1939 63.6% 36.4%
    1945 70.2% 29.8%
    1949 72.9% 27.1%
    1953 68.8% 31.2%
    1962 68.2% 31.8%
    1965 65.6% 34.4%
    1969 68.9% 31.1%
    1972 70.9% 29.1%
    1976 80.1% 19.9%
    1979 79.5% 20.5%
    1981 75.2% 24.8%
    1983 69.1% 30.9%
    1986 68.1% 31.9%
    1989 64.3% 35.7%
    1992 62.8% 37.2%
    1995 61.5% 38.5%
    1998 61.9% 38.1%
    2001 66.6% 33.4%
    2004 65.7% 34.3%
    2007 65.4% 34.6%
    2010 64.6% 35.4%
    Sources: 1922-1989 data from Wolff (1996), 1992-2010 data from Wolff (2012)[23]

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    Do i have to remind you what happen in 1929.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    One more thing, Have you ever been to a marine corp ball? Enlisted marines celebrated together, with no officers.
    just out of curiosity...what the hell does this statement have to do with anything being discussed here?
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    Its not foolish when you get paid nickles and dimes. IN Europe, every student wants to go to switzerland for work. Do you know why, its because they get paid fair.Why does the walton family need enough money for the next five generations? Thats Feudalism not capitalism.


    This is not a free country, to start a business you have to be an "accredited investor".
    It is basically just a financial threshold. For individual investors, you need a net worth of $1 million (alone or with spouse) OR annual income of $200,000 (or $300,000 in joint income with spouse) in the two most recent years, with an expectation that you will continue to earn that this year.

    From the SEC website http://www.sec.gov/answers/accre..., an Accredited Investor is defined as one of the following:

    a bank, insurance company, registered investment company, business development company, or small business investment company;
    an employee benefit plan, within the meaning of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act, if a bank, insurance company, or registered investment adviser makes the investment decisions, or if the plan has total assets in excess of $5 million;
    a charitable organization, corporation, or partnership with assets exceeding $5 million;
    a director, executive officer, or general partner of the company selling the securities;
    a business in which all the equity owners are accredited investors;
    a natural person who has individual net worth, or joint net worth with the personís spouse, that exceeds $1 million at the time of the purchase.
    a natural person with income exceeding $200,000 in each of the two most recent years or joint income with a spouse exceeding $300,000 for those years and a reasonable expectation of the same income level in the current year; or
    a trust with assets in excess of $5 million, not formed to acquire the securities offered, whose purchases a sophisticated person makes.

    Most people don't have that kind of money.

    One more thing, Have you ever been to a marine corp ball? Enlisted marines celebrated together, with no officers.
    What country do you live in? Here in the United States you can start a business with zero dollars.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    No its because they do not have enough money to live, while the rich have enough to exceed. As the rich has more money the economy fails.
    That statement is false at face value and is so absurd that you basically label yourself a kook to anyone with a little sense just by posting it.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    Seriously Mach why on earth would you say
    "pure capitalism is just as bad though"
    Dang, the media brainwashing has been oh SO effective.
    Why oh why do so many buy the lie that quote unquote

    'pure capitalism' is evil?

    How can so many people stubbornly hold on too this false belief?
    I consider myself to be a devout Capitalist but Corporations and Governments are powerful entities which both require certain degrees of checks and balances to ensure they never become a threat to the public_
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    yes governments can easily become a danger to private citizens
    but its just plain old bad business to try to threaten someone into
    paying for a product or service if you can't back it up with a credible
    threat of expropriation of property, loss of liberty and or violence.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    just out of curiosity...what the hell does this statement have to do with anything being discussed here?
    It shows the tension between officers and enlisted. The enlisted and NCO's does most of the work and get paid the least. The second lieutenant does paper work and gets paid the same as an E-4. The conflict of interest is ignore, if the enlisted got paid more than their grossly low salary, then tensions would ceased. Why should an officer only do two tours then get promoted, while the enlisted has multiple tours and still gets paid the same.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    What country do you live in? Here in the United States you can start a business with zero dollars.
    No, you need a down payment and have good credit for the average person.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

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    What we won't acknowledge is that everyone has the capacity to be extraordinary.
    I mean who the heck would knowingly 'give aid and comfort to the enemy' heh heh

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by jag2594 View Post
    Why should an officer only do two tours then get promoted, while the enlisted has multiple tours and still gets paid the same.
    hmm sounds like a value proposition there eh?
    why would a CEO receive greater compensation than a janitor?

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