View Poll Results: Is communism possible in the USA?

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  • Yes, religious type of communism

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  • Yes, other type of communism

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    Yes, that does go too far the other way. The few times it's been tried, it resulted in some very bad consequences.
    As bad as the bad communist/socialist blights in history? Certainly not. We've had more high points than low, is the point, and the net-high points have been perceived around the world as good, and have been implemented at least in part by most industrialized nations, to great benefit.

    And what about the fact that for any new system, of which capitalism/democracy on the U.S. scale was certainly a worldwide experiment, there will be issues that cause pain, that the citizens should come together and solve, and learn from, but this process of learning can take some time. How much time do we allow it before injecting government control, which carries its own dangers, not to mention may not actually solve it, and you may not be able to "get rid of it" once its no longer needed, or if the problems change, etc.?

    With the digital age, do we need so much heavy handed government? I mean, we have child labor laws now, do we still need massive labor organizations in bed with politicians, resting on the laurels of the 40 hour workweek and child labor laws? Glassdoor, salary.com, etc. Competition is ever increasing, and it provides some of the most efficient checks and balances. I do agree pure capitalism is just as bad though, I would just err on the side of minimal, rather than zero government involvement.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Once the US has a record of slaughtering, torturing & imprisoning its citizens like:
    The Soviet Union, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia,
    Mongolia, Ethiopia, Poland, East-Germany, Czechoslovakia, Albania,
    Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia & Cuba

    get back to me and we'll talk.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Seriously Mach why on earth would you say
    "pure capitalism is just as bad though"
    Dang, the media brainwashing has been oh SO effective.
    Why oh why do so many buy the lie that quote unquote

    'pure capitalism' is evil?

    How can so many people stubbornly hold on too this false belief?

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    socialism is force, becuase it demands you give your money, to what it believes is the betterment of a society.

    Jesus preached that people should give out of the goodness of ones' own heart, not by the force of government.
    Jesus told his apostles and followers to give up their worldly goods and possessions and give them to the poor and needy. Of course they did this of their own free will.....or else they would rot in eternal damnation. Some might say that the threat of eternal damnation was "force".

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...46&version=ESV

    Socialism is "a political and economic theory that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated. In Marxist theory, socialism is a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism."

    If you're just going to keep repeating that "socialism is a force" then I'm going have to ask you to prove it with a credible source.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Jesus told his apostles and followers to give up their worldly goods and possessions and give them to the poor and needy. Of course they did this of their own free will.....or else they would rot in eternal damnation. Some might say that the threat of eternal damnation was "force".

    Matthew 25:31-46 ESV - The Final Judgment -

    Socialism is "a political and economic theory that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated. In Marxist theory, socialism is a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism."

    If you're just going to keep repeating that "socialism is a force" then I'm going have to ask you to prove it with a credible source.

    there is no freedom is socialism.

    you and the Head of J, can reinterpret the bible if you wish.... to tickle your own fancy, but it will not change the bible.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    Seriously Mach why on earth would you say
    "pure capitalism is just as bad though"
    Dang, the media brainwashing has been oh SO effective.
    Why oh why do so many buy the lie that quote unquote

    'pure capitalism' is evil?

    How can so many people stubbornly hold on too this false belief?
    Too much of anything is bad. "Pure" capitalism is no exception.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    there is no freedom is socialism.

    you and the Head of J, can reinterpret the bible if you wish.... to tickle your own fancy, but it will not change the bible.
    If you can't convince anyone with logic, reason and evidence....then by all means resort to beating people over the head with denial and personal attacks and then tell me again about "force".

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    why oh why?
    It makes me sad
    We can't even begin to debate the concept that pure capitalism isn't evil incarnate
    indeed the whole concept MUST be dismissed out of hand
    the alternative is far too terrifying for anyone to comprehend?

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    maybe the human race isn't evolved enough to live in anything other than a command and control economy

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    I give up, the brainwashing has been far too complete, lotsa folks are now kinda ok with the idea of socialism
    but the mere mention of 'pure capitalism' makes em pee themselves, If good old fashioned communism
    has been shown to kill millions of its own citizens and capitalism can be shown to have made America rich
    then why in the blue blazes would anyone delude themselves into thinking 'pure capitalism' is evil?

    I know why oh I so do and it makes me a sad sad Panda

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