View Poll Results: Is communism possible in the USA?

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  • Yes, Soviet type of communism

    12 10.62%
  • Yes, community type of communism

    14 12.39%
  • Yes, religious type of communism

    2 1.77%
  • Yes, other type of communism

    14 12.39%
  • No, not possible

    61 53.98%
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    ya see there was this guy named Mao
    in the mid 60's there was this thing called the Cultural Revolution
    then Nixon went to China and there was this guy named Deng Xiaoping
    and...
    nevermind

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy
    ya see there was this guy named Mao
    in the mid 60's there was this thing called the Cultural Revolution
    then Nixon went to China and there was this guy named Deng Xiaoping
    and...
    nevermind
    I was alive when all of this happened. I've read more about it than (probably) most people have. As I said in my previous post, China does implement capitalist ideas. They are nevertheless a communist country, and opposed to full-on capitalism. That may or may not change with time. We'll see, I suppose.

    The point is that the black-and-white sort of distinction that artevelde is trying to make doesn't fit the real world.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Alrighty then yer right about that.
    (sry)
    Of course the Chinese are commies
    who else would have the audacity to institute the One-child policy?
    I went back and skimmed through your exchanges with Artevelde
    not quite sure what you two are trying to nail down.
    ya wanna say that because neither of you can manage to agree what constitutes 'Communism'
    it therefore isn't possible in the USA?
    I'd say anything it possible no matter how highly unlikely.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    socialism is communism-lite
    and there aren't many that would disagree that the US has been moving towards ever increasing socialism

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    This may be ridiculous (though, if Jesus was God, he was surely aware of communism, as such). What isn't ridiculous is claiming that the ideas of Jesus are harmonious with the core ideas and motivations of communism--as they surely are.
    Actually, it's obviously ridiculous_

    Jesus never promoted forced wealth redistribution__every Christian knows "Thou shalt not steal"_

    What Jesus did advocate was compassion and charity from the heart for the less fortunate among us_

    Christianity is about giving of your own free will while Communism is rooted in The Authoritarian State_

    The teachings of Marx are about as contradictory to those of Jesus as two disciplines can possibly get_
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica
    Actually, it's obviously ridiculous_
    Hmmmm...it's not obvious to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica
    Jesus never promoted forced wealth redistribution__every Christian knows "Thou shalt not steal"_
    I'm curious where Jesus said this. I don't recall ever reading that he said these words.

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica
    What Jesus did advocate was compassion and charity from the heart for the less fortunate among us_
    Yes, correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica
    Christianity is about giving of your own free will
    Well...this is weird reasoning. I suppose you could say that it's true Jesus seems to have thought that Christians should genuinely want to help others. But commandments to help the poor and also each other are just that--commandments. Jesus never said "help the poor, but only if you feel like it."

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica
    while Communism is rooted in The Authoritarian State_
    Marx thought that the only people who would need to be forced to accept communism were the wealthy classes. The proletariat, he thought, would gladly accept communism of their own free will. Socialism is implemented with political force. Communism, in its final form, has no or little political force.

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica
    The teachings of Marx are about as contradictory to those of Jesus as two disciplines can possibly get_
    This does not seem to be demonstrated.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    aw shucks there you go again Empirica


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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    Marx thought that the only people who would need to be forced to accept communism were the wealthy classes
    well well well now
    isn't that special?

    I'm sure those 6 million Kulaks would agree?

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Jesus was the ultimate communist. He shunned material possession, He multiplied bread and fish for the sole purpose of feeding others who were hungry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew 7:12
    Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuteronomy 15:11
    For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    pshaw all religions want to control your mind
    all governments desire to control your body
    freedom is antithetical to either organization

    For heavens sake the last thing we'd ever want is for people
    to go running around deciding for themselves how to live their lives

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