View Poll Results: Is communism possible in the USA?

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  • Yes, Soviet type of communism

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  • Yes, community type of communism

    14 12.39%
  • Yes, religious type of communism

    2 1.77%
  • Yes, other type of communism

    14 12.39%
  • No, not possible

    61 53.98%
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Gonzo there is a beauty in your words comparable to that which can be seen in Quantum field theory

    hah ya gotta love it when well fed, housed, clothed socialists stamp their feet and throw their sippy cups from their high-chairs
    ranting about poverty, starvation & scarcity

    My mind wanders to the concept that none of them have ever really experienced first hand what the onset of starvation
    the various phases you go through, feels like? Now nearly dying from exposure is a whole nuther kettle of fish eh?

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    People advocating for socialism have their own definitions of what scarcity "really means." The Zeitgeist video, for example, posits that post-scarcity, modern, socialist cities of the future will only need 3% of the population to maintain. And where, exactly, does this 3% come from? Needing ANYTHING is the textbook antonym of post-scarcity. Unless you're comfortable with slavery, as long as it's just "3%".

    We will continue to live with scarcity until the very moment we can synthesize anything we need from a raw stock of atoms, up to and including being able to synthesize more synthesizers. And even then, post-scarcity for the human race will only last as long as there is an abundant amount of atoms in relation to the population. True and eternal scarcity is a myth, born in the land of milk and honey.
    I definitely agree with the first paragraph...not so much the second one though.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    So you're good with a 100% estate tax? That's good to know!
    Sure, same day that every single person earns everything that they now inherit. Oh, things like freedoms, rights, etc. If people are not allowed to inherit physical things, like property and money, then why should they be allowed to inherit the truly important things.

    Did you earn the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, or did you inherit that? Seems only fair, since some don't inherit money and you think everyone should start even, then since every person doesn't inherit these, then you would be willing to give them up also so that every person starts even and only gets what they earn for themselves.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    clearly this dude doesn't have a rich uncle about to croak off
    or is it that he's so lacking in fiduciary responsibility that none of his family members would trust him with a dime
    or is it that he doesn't understand that death taxes have only one purpose and that is to keep the middle class poor
    because the truly wealthy folks are completely unaffected by such silly things or
    mebbe I'll go get a nuther' cuppa joe

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Sure, same day that every single person earns everything that they now inherit. Oh, things like freedoms, rights, etc. If people are not allowed to inherit physical things, like property and money, then why should they be allowed to inherit the truly important things.

    Did you earn the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, or did you inherit that? Seems only fair, since some don't inherit money and you think everyone should start even, then since every person doesn't inherit these, then you would be willing to give them up also so that every person starts even and only gets what they earn for themselves.
    I made no personal opinion of a 100% inheritance tax - YOU did that when you posted this:

    "Aristocracy is inherited and remains stagnant ... "

    Since you believe in passing money and property down from one generation to the next it seems obvious that you want to perpetuate the aristocracy regardless of your alleged ideal of a meritocracy.


    Every person starts even (with the Constitution) as long as it applies equally to everyone all the time. You're just flopping around and grasping at straws with that line of attack.
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    To save the poll from influence, I will spare my opinion for the time being.

    So, is communism possible in the USA?
    Karl Marx defined Socialism as "the transition period between Capitalism and Communism"_

    The introduction of even a simple insignificant socialist policy into a capitalist system will grow and spread until it eventually dominates the entire ideopolitical structure_

    Once socialism is injected into Capitalism, corrupt and progressive politicians will continuously expand on it to buy votes, despite the increasing burden it places on a nation's economy_

    And as people become more dependent on government, the more freedom they must surrender to it while their Socialist Utopia slowly progresses toward a Communist police state_

    Capitalism and Socialism can never co-exist in harmony until the human race evolves beyond the desire for wealth and power and entitlement to the fruits of another's labor_

    So in answer to the poll question; The United States has been on the path to Communism ever since the first Socialist Policy was introduced into its system_
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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Empirica Your thoughts on this matter should be etched into every school child's psyche
    at least that way when they grow up they will know why their country in now a complete shambles

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I made no personal opinion of a 100% inheritance tax - YOU did that when you posted this:

    "Aristocracy is inherited and remains stagnant ... "

    Since you believe in passing money and property down from one generation to the next it seems obvious that you want to perpetuate the aristocracy regardless of your alleged ideal of a meritocracy.


    Every person starts even (with the Constitution) as long as it applies equally to everyone all the time. You're just flopping around and grasping at straws with that line of attack.
    So you understood part of the sentence, not the whole. Just because someone inherits money does not mean they will be able to keep it. If the lack the "merit" to keep it they lose it. An Aristocracy however, the don't lose it because their position is part of law.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Karl Marx defined Socialism as "the transition period between Capitalism and Communism"_

    The introduction of even a simple insignificant socialist policy into a capitalist system will grow and spread until it eventually dominates the entire ideopolitical structure_

    Once socialism is injected into Capitalism, corrupt and progressive politicians will continuously expand on it to buy votes, despite the increasing burden it places on a nation's economy_

    And as people become more dependent on government, the more freedom they must surrender to it while their Socialist Utopia slowly progresses toward a Communist police state_

    Capitalism and Socialism can never co-exist in harmony until the human race evolves beyond the desire for wealth and power and entitlement to the fruits of another's labor_

    So in answer to the poll question; The United States has been on the path to Communism ever since the first Socialist Policy was introduced into its system_
    Aye, dear. As I said, not while I'm alive. So if things keep going, then dying time is getting nearer. But, I won't be going that path alone.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    take as many of them with you as you can ?

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