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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    "Studying for the Bar"
    how long does that take?

    help me out here if you would:
    "take out all the work that does nothing but produce profit"

    and

    "a person can make a profit off of their labor"

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    To save the poll from influence, I will spare my opinion for the time being.

    So, is communism possible in the USA?
    Overall, I would say nation wide communism won't come to fruition anytime soon in the United States but perhaps in specific city or area. Poverty stricken, minority dominated cities aren't all that far off from socialism as it is. Private business might exist but those still in business are taxed through the nose for redistribution. I'm not sure if there is a real difference between the state owning everything and the state providing the money to pay for everything.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    DV what I find astounding is how willingly people large & small will allow the subjugation of: "Redistribution of wealth" .
    We Americans have become so inured to the idea that paying:
    a capital gains tax
    corporate income tax
    personal income tax
    FICA (twice if you are an employer) and or
    self employment tax
    Medicare/medicaid tax
    and then
    (in most states)
    State Income tax
    har then when you go to spend it
    city sales tax?
    federal gasoline taxes
    cost rolled into every product and or service due to the businesses being taxed
    wait
    there's no way I can hope to list all of it, it is insanely out of control
    then to top it off we are told the rich aren't paying enough although they are the one's paying the vast majority
    and to add insult to injury the Feds (and many States) run Huge ruinous deficits that would crush any normal
    privately owned business or send a private citizen into bankruptcy court

    and starting in 2014 there is the wunderful Affordable Care Act with it's bevy of taxes?

    subjugation yup

    and the commie mofo's are clamoring for More, More More socialism?

    First, the US is one of the lowest-taxed countries on earth, particularly towards the wealthy.

    Second, fiscal deficits and the national debt aren't a problem so I don't know why you're bringing it up as if it's an argument against Federal programs.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    First, the US is one of the lowest-taxed countries on earth, particularly towards the wealthy.

    Second, fiscal deficits and the national debt aren't a problem so I don't know why you're bringing it up as if it's an argument against Federal programs.
    USA has the 2nd highest corporate tax in the world, only behind Japan.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    "fiscal deficits and the national debt aren't a problem"
    whew thanks I was completely unaware that a nation couldn't ruin itself in that manner.

    So have you ever been in a tax bracket that took half of your income?
    How did that make you feel as you did your cash flow analysis and profit n loss statements?

    Has your CFO ever told ya that you should draw a larger paycheck because everything
    over a certain amount was exempt from FICA taxation and your first thought was:
    Why in the hell should I use that as a determining factor in how much I should pay myself?

    and while this was goin' on did you ever think to yourself that if the government didn't have
    both hands down your pants stealing your money you'd certainly pay those people who are helping
    you to run your business more because they are directly involved in serving your customers?

    If more Americans knew what it was like to write paychecks rather than collect them we'd
    throw these bums out in a fortnight !

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    "the US is one of the lowest-taxed countries on earth"

    thx gipper I found that supposed statement of fact to preposterous to respond too

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    we have an attempt at a lower form of it now called Obamacare
    Forced healthcare. How horrible.

    Well, it sure beats torture and secret renditions...aka Bushcare.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    "the US is one of the lowest-taxed countries on earth"

    thx gipper I found that supposed statement of fact to preposterous to respond too
    Well, we actually are one of the least taxed nations in the world. Of course, that's not because we're undertaxed - it's because everyone else is even more overtaxed than we are.

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Where the state owns all the means of production it isn't possible to think of it in terms of taxation?
    Where the nation is so impoverished there isn't anything too tax?
    When someone has spent their entire life as a wage slave and their level of what taxation is remains limited to the 1040EZ form?
    I take it all back we are the Richest nation on earth!
    Khayembii has helped me to see that 16 trillion in public debt means nothing.
    Currently we are taxed at such an absurdly low rate that raising taxes will not only serve to punish those evil rich bastards but will also result in an immediate economic boom which will 'lift all ships' !
    cool beans

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    Re: Is communism possible in the USA?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngryOldGuy View Post
    "Merit, the skills and attitude to do a job controls the workers wage, not owners"

    So DV I am just guessing here but you haven't spent years signing the front of paychecks eh?
    Was talking about theory and natural dynamics of the market/economy, not the current government created train wreck that we have.
    Last edited by DVSentinel; 08-05-13 at 03:27 PM.
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