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    Re: Tipping on Takeout

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    In the interest of full disclosure, let's point out that...

    1. Most servers, if they're any good at all, average well over 15% over the course of a week, and
    2. Most servers don't declare everything they technically should, especially with cash tips, so
    3. It's not really fair to micromanage to that degree because, if anyone does stiff them, it's unlikely they're actually paying taxes out of pocket.

    Serving and earning tips is akin to a marathon. You will have good nights and you will have bad nights. If you try to micromanage each table you will only drive yourself crazy. Cumulatively over time is the only rational way to look at tips earned.
    That is true to a certain extent. Servers, by law, are supposed to claim ALL of their tips, however, the Government generally will not allocate if the server claims about 8% of sales. However, you cannot rationalize your failure to tip on the notion that another patron gave the server 20%. Your failure to tip is still requiring the server to pay taxes on what the government assumes that you tipped out of their other tips. That's just the bottom line fact.
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    Re: Tipping on Takeout

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That is true to a certain extent. Servers, by law, are supposed to claim ALL of their tips, however, the Government generally will not allocate if the server claims about 8% of sales. However, you cannot rationalize your failure to tip on the notion that another patron gave the server 20%. Your failure to tip is still requiring the server to pay taxes on what the government assumes that you tipped out of their other tips. That's just the bottom line fact.
    I have a problem with someone expecting me to pay a gratuity for poor service because the government decided to tax it as income. If you have a problem with leaving the matter of tipping up to each customer, work for a business that pays minimum wage. That way you are guaranteed an amount for each hour worked and can be fairly taxed on it like everyone else.

    I'm fairly sick and tired of a-hole servers acting like they are doing me a great favor by bringing my food from the kitchen to my table. If restaurants didn't do that they would lose customers to competitors who do, or to take out and delivery places. If you want a tip, show me a good reason to give you more of my hard-earned wages beyond the already expensive part of paying for the food.

    P.S. I've worked as a waiter in my youth, and I made sure my customers were pleased by my service. I rarely got stiffed on a tip.
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    Re: Tipping on Takeout

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I have a problem with someone expecting me to pay a gratuity for poor service
    No one has suggested that you should leave a tip if you receive poor service
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    Re: Tipping on Takeout

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No one has suggested that you should leave a tip if you receive poor service
    Actually the person I was replying to seemed to be implying it. Anyone who argues that it is "wages" for work performed is essentially arguing a failure to tip is denying due wages.

    I don't consider it that way; I consider it a service offered in hopes of a reward. Therefore it is not the server's due unless the person feels the service has earned the reward. I either leave a tip of 1/3 of the bill, or I leave nothing. It depends on the service.
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    Re: Tipping on Takeout

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Actually the person I was replying to seemed to be implying it. Anyone who argues that it is "wages" for work performed is essentially arguing a failure to tip is denying due wages.

    I don't consider it that way; I consider it a service offered in hopes of a reward. Therefore it is not the server's due unless the person feels the service has earned the reward. I either leave a tip of 1/3 of the bill, or I leave nothing. It depends on the service.
    I didn't think that was implied.
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    Re: Tipping on Takeout

    I rarely eat out at all. When I do, I tip generously for good service and at the average rate for less than good service. If I receive poor service, I don't go back. Besides, I like to cook because I like to eat. And I like to eat because I like to cook. Works out well. I have to edit to add that I don't eat fast food, and I do tip for carry out sometimes - depends on exactly what the food costs, i.e., I usually only order carryout from places I know and return to them because of the quality, which deserves a tip in my view.
    Last edited by humbolt; 08-03-13 at 12:27 PM.

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    Re: Tipping on Takeout

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I guess it's not bad if it's raining (which it almost always is), you can stay in the car, but something about it bugs me, I want to do it myself and you're legally not allowed to.
    What bugs me about it is while I'm getting all nostalgic I hand the guy a $10 and say "Fill 'er up and keep the change!" and then he busts out laughing.

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    Re: Tipping on Takeout

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I rarely eat out at all. When I do, I tip generously for good service and at the average rate for less than good service. If I receive poor service, I don't go back. Besides, I like to cook because I like to eat. And I like to eat because I like to cook. Works out well. I have to edit to add that I don't eat fast food, and I do tip for carry out sometimes - depends on exactly what the food costs, i.e., I usually only order carryout from places I know and return to them because of the quality, which deserves a tip in my view.
    In our area, one of our local Chinese restaurants is strictly a husband/wife team. Period. Their children play in a room in the back. They have a couple of tables for those who want to eat there, but it is predominantly carry-out. They have a giant glass jar on the counter if anyone wants to tip, and I always do, because both the food and the service are excellent. And the nice thing is that they actually remember their long-time customers when they call for carry-out, and they ask me how are you doing, and don't you want the Egg Rolls today? What's not to like?

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    Re: Tipping on Takeout

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Then why ask?
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    Re: Tipping on Takeout

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Because servers are generally not paid a wage consistent with the work. Their tips are factored into the amount that they are paid. Really what it comes down to is that people who have problem tipping shouldn't patronize full-service restaurants. There are plenty of fast food and more upscale counter restaurants available. Full service restaurant servers are not paid the same wages...and they have to claim 8% tip on sales whether they receive 15% or nothing. When you don't tip.....the money comes out of their pocket. So you aren't only being cheap...you are kinda being rude.
    But we're not talking about servers, we're talking about other people who are making a full wage and tips are not built into their pay structure. Why should we tip them?
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