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    Re: Is the Internet a utility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Public Utility:

    Enterprise that provides certain classes of services to the public, including common-carrier transportation (buses, airlines, railroads); telephone and telegraph services; power, heat and light; and community facilities for water and sanitation. In most countries such enterprises are state-owned and state-operated; in the U.S. they are mainly privately owned, but they operate under close regulation. Given the technology of production and distribution, they are considered natural monopolies, since the capital costs for such enterprises are large and the existence of competing or parallel systems would be inordinately expensive and wasteful. Government regulation in the U.S., particularly at the state level, aims to ensure safe operation, reasonable rates, and service on equal terms to all customers. Some states have experimented with deregulation of electricity and natural-gas operations to stimulate price reductions and improved service through competition, but the results have not been universally promising.



    So while internet providers have largely supplanted/absorbed telephone (I believe nearly all telephone/cell voice/data is on the internet for interstate calls), they are not regulated (yet) to the same extent.

    So yes, internet providers are a public utility.
    LOL @ "telephone and telegraph services"

    Outdated definition.

    I agree, the internet is a basic utility.

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    Re: Is the Internet a utility?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I probably like and use the phone the least and yet it's one of the more essential tools when needed. You can't set up utilities, deal with credit cards, talk to out of town relatives, etc without a telephone.
    Good point, my good sir. I suppose after the fact, I would then do without my phone, haha. Also, I love your display picture.

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    Re: Is the Internet a utility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    LOL @ "telephone and telegraph services"

    Outdated definition.

    I agree, the internet is a basic utility.
    The least you could have done was comment on the regulation aspect since the FCC is still dealing with that....but instead you went with a low brow snicker on a Webster definition. You focused on the device rather than the class.

    What a moronic response.
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    Re: Is the Internet a utility?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I agree the TV has become nothing but a large monitor or view screen and the 3 major Networks part of a huge system of channels. I still think that wireless technology will be cheaper, easier and eventually more available at realistic costs. See how easily they beam channels worldwide thru satellites and have been for deacdes. Hardwire connections are truly outdated technology. It's just a matter of time before they increase the speed, data stream and improve signal power and quality with mobile/wireless.
    Hmm.... that may be true in the long run, but not with existing technology. Fiber optic cables use light waves which, as you know, travel at the speed of light.

    Satellites, cell phones, and other mobile devices use radio technology (your cell phone, for example, sends a radio signal to a cell phone tower, which bounces the signal around, it goes via radio waves up to a satellite, and bounces back down to earth).

    Radio waves travel slower than light, it's physics.

    Optical satellites are possible, but we're talking decades of development to get to that point. As far as I know, even the military doesn't have that yet. Of course, maybe they do.

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    Re: Is the Internet a utility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The least you could have done was comment on the regulation aspect since the FCC is still dealing with that....but instead you went with a low brow snicker on a Webster definition. You focused on the device rather than the class.

    What a moronic response.
    Low brow is my bag, baby.

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    Re: Is the Internet a utility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Hmm.... that may be true in the long run, but not with existing technology. Fiber optic cables use light waves which, as you know, travel at the speed of light.

    Satellites, cell phones, and other mobile devices use radio technology (your cell phone, for example, sends a radio signal to a cell phone tower, which bounces the signal around, it goes via radio waves up to a satellite, and bounces back down to earth).

    Radio waves travel slower than light, it's physics.

    Optical satellites are possible, but we're talking decades of development to get to that point. As far as I know, even the military doesn't have that yet. Of course, maybe they do.
    Optical broadband isn't that far off. Range seems to be one limiting factor that requires more transmitters though speed sure isn't.
    If I were an investor I'd be pumping money into this right now.

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    Re: Is the Internet a utility?

    The Internet is a utility in the vein of cable or phone, not water and electricity

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    Re: Is the Internet a utility?

    Quote Originally Posted by polisciguy View Post
    I could likely live without out all three, but the phone the most. I have never liked the thought of people having the ability to just get in touch with you at any given moment. Damn Alexander Graham Bell.
    I turned the ringers off two of the three and simply do not answer unless I feel like it.

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    Re: Is the Internet a utility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The Internet is a utility in the vein of cable or phone, not water and electricity
    If my utilities and bank get their way and force me to do all transactions and payments online, it will become a necessity in order to provide for my water and electricity. All they have to do is shut down the US Post Office and that's becoming close to a reality.
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    Re: Is the Internet a utility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    gas and electricity are not essential for survival or disease prevention.
    Nor is the phone.
    Do you enjoy freezing to death and starving?

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