View Poll Results: I have completed the following formal educations

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  • None or very little

    3 3.53%
  • Attended school, but did not graduate

    1 1.18%
  • GED or graduated from high school

    19 22.35%
  • Some college

    18 21.18%
  • 2 year college degree

    17 20.00%
  • 4 year college degree

    32 37.65%
  • formal education based technical degree/certification

    16 18.82%
  • Military or other past-high school degree

    12 14.12%
  • Lawyer, doctor, other high education degree

    5 5.88%
  • Masters/PhD

    27 31.76%
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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Yes, they do.
    Can you link something on that. I've never met one who did, and my google search says no.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    did they also teach you that phrases such as "job not involving law" probably includes jobs not involved in teaching law or were you at the 21st Amendment Club meeting that day?
    WTF?? I must have been asleep that day; parse that for me please in terms of what we are talking about?
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    And they aren't addressed by their students as "doctor"?! How are they listed when they present at academic conferences? I ask because although creative writing folks don't generally present at the same ones, they do at a few biggies, and they are always introduced with that honorific title.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    And they aren't addressed by their students as "doctor"?! How are they listed when they present at academic conferences? I ask because although creative writing folks don't generally present at the same ones, they do at a few biggies, and they are always introduced with that honorific title.
    It was a first name basis where I went.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Please show me some link proving that. I've never heard of any person with a Master's degree being authorized to use the title Doctor.

    P.S. ...and after searching the net I still can't FIND any indication that an MFA grants the recipient the right to the title "Doctor."
    Psst... it's fine arts. They call themselves doctors because they're acting.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by polisciguy View Post
    The University at which I teach allows for those with a Juris Doctorate to teach law and some lower level political science courses, the latter as an adjunct. In many cases it depends on the school, at least from my experience. Some people are appalled and offended that anyone would consider a J.D. a "doctorate." Others are not so picky. And, depending on the law school one attends, much of the curriculum is comparable to that of graduate school. So in reality, it is a bit of a gray area, again, the bulk of which is due to different schools.
    I have a JD/MBA and it has always been treated as a dual masters for academic purposes. If someone treats it as a Phd. equivalent it would be news to me. Along the lines of what you indicated though, outside of law school and adjunct positions it is not particularly useful for someone who wants a full-time professorship and be treated as a Phd. would be.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    And they aren't addressed by their students as "doctor"?! How are they listed when they present at academic conferences? I ask because although creative writing folks don't generally present at the same ones, they do at a few biggies, and they are always introduced with that honorific title.
    I am certainly not declaring you wrong by any means, for there is much of which I am ignorant, but I too have not not seen the title of "doctor" conferred upon an individual with an MFA. I worked as an adjunct with an MFA (also working as an adjunct) when I was working on my doctorate. Both of us were simply referred to as "Mister."

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It was a first name basis where I went.
    That doesn't surprise me; those creative writing folks are a breed apart. As for me (old-school), even after I became a colleague, I never could call one of my own profs by his first name. Ever.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    JD's are not considered terminal degrees. LLM's are above them
    Fair enough. But how many LLM's do you see teaching at law schools? Not many.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I have a JD/MBA and it has always been treated as a dual masters for academic purposes. If someone treats it as a Phd. equivalent it would be news to me. Along the lines of what you indicated though, outside of law school and adjunct positions it is not particularly useful for someone who wants a full-time professorship and be treated as a Phd. would be.
    You're certainly right on the latter part. As for the former, I suppose I should clarify. In most instances, though eligible to teach law, the J.D. is considered a Master's level title, though often times the, I suppose, "spiritual" title of "doctor" is applied in the classroom. Though, I'd imagine in correspondence, insofar as academic work is concerned, one would still be considered as having a masters.

    Forgive me; apparently I was under the impression you thought one must have a PhD in order to teach law. While on the subject, I might add, it is often more beneficial to have a J.D. instruct a law class. Experience versus theory, for what it's worth.

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