View Poll Results: I have completed the following formal educations

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  • None or very little

    3 3.53%
  • Attended school, but did not graduate

    1 1.18%
  • GED or graduated from high school

    19 22.35%
  • Some college

    18 21.18%
  • 2 year college degree

    17 20.00%
  • 4 year college degree

    32 37.65%
  • formal education based technical degree/certification

    16 18.82%
  • Military or other past-high school degree

    12 14.12%
  • Lawyer, doctor, other high education degree

    5 5.88%
  • Masters/PhD

    27 31.76%
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Thread: What is your level of formal education?

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I tell friends' kids that unless you can get into a name law school or your state's best public law school (example UC Berk in california, Boston U in Mass, Ohio State, or UNC-Chaple Hill) its probably not worth going to law school. When I was in lawschool if you were in the top third at an Ivy or equivalent school you could get a job at one of the best wall street firms. middle of the class-some very good NY firms or really good regional firms in Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland. Law review at a decent state school about the same. Now its shifted about 50% meaning you better be in the top quarter of your class at Columbia or better for those big NY firms and law review at Ohio State for a top fourth street firm in cincinnati or a top firm in Cleveland
    One day during my Professional Responsibility and Ethics course the professor told the class he wanted to take a poll. He said he was going to call out a starting salary and asked the class to raise their hands when he hit on the salary they expected to get at their first job. He started with $45,000 and I was the only one who raised his hand (since I expected to work as a public defender). Then he went up in $5,000 increments and no one raised their hand again until he got to $90,000, and eventually most people raised their hands between $100,000 and $120,000.

    I think they had unrealistic expectations based on old school values. LOL
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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    High school grad here.
    Just enough college to know I didn't want to keep attending!!
    Yeah, I only needed 33 hours when I left realizing it was wasting my time and holding me back. I now realize it was a good move for me every time we hire a new college boy and it takes him three years to learn our business.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I guess my hearing getting a PhD is largely about sucking the over-seer's dick and kissing his/her ass for a few years was wrong.

    Sorry to interrupt. Carry on your debate. .
    Whoa! Thinking back on this I didn't mean it as an insult, really. I was taking the MBA guy's side who was being severely ridiculed by a guy with a PhD. Both you guys certainly worked and studied tremendously and successfully for years, earning the titles you have and the opportunities you earns others do not have. My crude quip maybe has a tad of point to it - that some degree of submissiveness and cajolery and decorum/ranking concessions may be involved in climbing the ladder - but that is true in about everything anyway.

    The levels of education on this forum are extremely impressive and represent great effort and success. That does not necessary mean a superior or person nor a wiser one in other topics and fields however, and within your own there are disagreeements.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Associates and Bachelors. Planning to start my masters next fall.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    My old undergrad roommate went on to get an MFA in acting from Yale. While she was there she briefly dated a guy getting his MBA, and when he found out what her schedule was like his response was something along the lines of "wow that's way the hell harder than what I have to do." And by contrast, PhD programs take about twice as long to complete and usually require genuinely original academic work. That's much tougher than learning how to read financial spreadsheets and analyze stock offerings.
    I'd argue that in large part the "difficulty" of completing a program is predicated a lot on the aptitude and abilities of the individual and, in no small part, on the "difficulty" of the degree/program.

    I went through library school (the #4 program in the country) with guys who had JDs (from 2nd and 3rd tier law schools), essentially failed lawyers who were going back to get library degrees so they could become law librarians, and they found the MLIS program more difficult than law school in many respects. Actually, one of the guys was put out of the program for failing to meet standards.

    Now, I'll grant you, library school isn't rocket science so it's a pretty poor example to be using.

    So lets use rocket science.

    I'm sure there are plenty of guys running around with JDs, even from pretty darn good law schools, who couldn't earn acceptance to, let alone successfully complete, even a mid flight Masters' program that's heavy in advanced maths like Aerospace Engineering.

    It's really all relative.

    One of my best friends has a JD from Georgetown and made partner at Lowenstein Sandler a couple years ago, so not shabby as far as law careers go, and we've discussed this a number of time. His thinking is that he could have completed an MD program if he chose to go that route but the math in an engineering program would have killed him.
    Last edited by soot; 08-02-13 at 11:43 AM.

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    1 PhD, 2 Master's degrees
    I'll match your Ph.D. and two mater's degrees and raise you a wedding planning certificate ...

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I'll match your Ph.D. and two mater's degrees and raise you a wedding planning certificate ...
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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Not being a betting man, I'll fold.
    In all seriousness, you should be applauded for your accomplishments ... congrats ...

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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What is a "terminal degree?"
    Generally speaking, a terminal degree is a degree that is considered the highest degree necessary for a specific field.
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    Re: What is your level of formal education?

    I earned my 4 year BS in molecular biology, I'm currently about to start P2 year working towards my Doctor of Pharmacy (Pharm.D.) degree.

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