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  • Freedom of Religion

    26 56.52%
  • Mandate to Evolve

    10 21.74%
  • Both are equally crucial

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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Often, it made up of things we didn't understand. Story is a good way to navigate complicated issues. That said, the wrong story just as easily causes as much harm as good. I still put faith in telling the truth as much as possible.
    I'm not saying that we should teach religious doctrines as fact. But I'm also denying that studying the social implications of religion is negative.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Org View Post
    I'm not saying that we should teach religious doctrines as fact. But I'm also denying that studying the social implications of religion is negative.
    I don't disagree with that, but it's under the category of religion or religious study.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    What they neglect to mention is that everything in science is just a theory and is never proven. Unlike the Prime Number Theorem, which will absolutely and forever be true, it is still possible, albeit very, very, very, very, very unlikely, that the theory of evolution by natural and sexual selection may one day turn out to be false. But then again, it is also possible, albeit very, very, very, very, very unlikely, that monkeys will fly out of my ass tomorrow. In my judgment, both events are about equally likely.




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    That's what it says in the link. I don't think you read my link.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Were we specifically talking about science class? I'm just talking school in general. Of course you don't teach mythology in math class.

    I learned the theory of evolution in history class in 6th grade.
    Usually this is discussed in the context of creationist theories in the science classroom. But if you were referring to a general case, then I apologize. In general, I don't see an issue with theology being taught as an academic study in school.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It happens. No worries.
    I just looked at your link, and to be honest, it's hard to know who to trust. I am holding my opinions on what created or creates GW until there is some more evidence. So far, as far as I'm aware, they can go back through some periods of time but not all, so they really cannot be SURE there is not some kind of pattern here. They are comparing to the known data that they have and are capable of collecting at this current time with the technology available is all.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't disagree with that, but it's under the category of religion or religious study.
    Is that a bad thing? One of the reasons I can only comment on religion in a broad sense is my lack of textual understanding. Real religious scholars ought to be deeply versed in the core texts of their study, even if they disagree with the claims of these texts, no?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's what it says in the link. I don't think you read my link.
    I copied it from your link. You highlighted the wrong part.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Org View Post
    Is that a bad thing? One of the reasons I can only comment on religion in a broad sense is my lack of textual understanding. Real religious scholars ought to be deeply versed in the core texts of their study, even if they disagree with the claims of these texts, no?
    No, but I wasn't really talking about religion studied as religion in my original comment.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I copied it from your link. You highlighted the wrong part.
    No, you need to read it again apparently. Use your comprehension!!! The bold part is copied from my link.

    The creationists and other critics of evolution are absolutely correct when they point out that evolution is “just a theory” and it is not “proven.” What they neglect to mention is that everything in science is just a theory and is never proven. Unlike the Prime Number Theorem, which will absolutely and forever be true, it is still possible, albeit very, very, very, very, very unlikely, that the theory of evolution by natural and sexual selection may one day turn out to be false. But then again, it is also possible, albeit very, very, very, very, very unlikely, that monkeys will fly out of my ass tomorrow. In my judgment, both events are about equally likely.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Do we have any scientists disputing the theory of relativity? No we don't.


    Lol! What? I don't know of anyone except for very few who don't want their children to learn about the theory of evolution. Some of them would like the religious theory included too, that doesn't mean they're against learning about other theories as well. Why does it have to be one way or the other with some of you people?
    but why would they want a religious theory taught in a science class?

    if religious theory MUST be taught in science - shouldn't there also be competing theories on the nature of the universe? why isn't geocentrism presented as an alternative theory, for example?
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