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  • Freedom of Religion

    26 56.52%
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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You don't have to SAY it's a myth You can see it is a theory without any scientific evidence to support it.
    Ok, I smiled.


    But, a myth and a theory (scientific theory) are two very different things.


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    At this point questioning global warming is like questioning gravity. It is basic physics, quantum mechanics and the Earth’s energy balance: if CO2 goes up, global warming occurs.

    http://www.themortonreport.com/disco...lobal-warming/
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Ok, I smiled.


    But, a myth and a theory (scientific theory) are two very different things.
    Oops! That depends on the beholder. Some might consider the Bible to be a form of evidence, though not scientific.

    Proofs exist only in mathematics and logic, not in science. Mathematics and logic are both closed, self-contained systems of propositions, whereas science is empirical and deals with nature as it exists. The primary criterion and standard of evaluation of scientific theory is evidence, not proof. All else equal (such as internal logical consistency and parsimony), scientists prefer theories for which there is more and better evidence to theories for which there is less and worse evidence. Proofs are not the currency of science.

    Proofs have two features that do not exist in science: They are final, and they are binary. Once a theorem is proven, it will forever be true and there will be nothing in the future that will threaten its status as a proven theorem (unless a flaw is discovered in the proof). Apart from a discovery of an error, a proven theorem will forever and always be a proven theorem.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oops! That depends on the beholder. Some might consider the Bible to be a form of evidence, though not scientific.
    Btw, see what I added to the last post.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oops! That depends on the beholder. Some might consider the Bible to be a form of evidence, though not scientific.
    Id love to see the link for that.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Btw, see what I added to the last post.
    Sorry, I can't load the page right now. My computer seems to be really slow tonight.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Sorry, I can't load the page right now. My computer seems to be really slow tonight.
    It happens. No worries.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Big if. Depending on the myth, it just as likely may be holding society back, causing more harm than good. At then end of the day, do we really distrust the truth that much?
    Believe me, I'm no fan of religion. But it is an important aspect of modern and historical public policy. It's, to the chagrin of the humanist left, played a vital cultural role throughout most known history.

    So simply discarding it's merits as an academic study is silly, if not outright harmful to young people.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Id love to see the link for that.
    Here, and just because the title sounds as if it my be biased, it is not, and here is another excerpt from it.

    The creationists and other critics of evolution are absolutely correct when they point out that evolution is “just a theory” and it is not “proven.” What they neglect to mention is that everything in science is just a theory and is never proven. Unlike the Prime Number Theorem, which will absolutely and forever be true, it is still possible, albeit very, very, very, very, very unlikely, that the theory of evolution by natural and sexual selection may one day turn out to be false. But then again, it is also possible, albeit very, very, very, very, very unlikely, that monkeys will fly out of my ass tomorrow. In my judgment, both events are about equally likely.
    Common misconceptions about science I:

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Org View Post
    Believe me, I'm no fan of religion. But it is an important aspect of modern and historical public policy. It's, to the chagrin of the humanist left, played a vital cultural role throughout most known history.

    So simply discarding it's merits as an academic study is silly, if not outright harmful to young people.
    Often, it made up of things we didn't understand. Story is a good way to navigate complicated issues. That said, the wrong story just as easily causes as much harm as good. I still put faith in telling the truth as much as possible.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Here, and just because the title sounds as if it my be biased, it is not, and here is another excerpt from it.



    Common misconceptions about science I:
    What they neglect to mention is that everything in science is just a theory and is never proven. Unlike the Prime Number Theorem, which will absolutely and forever be true, it is still possible, albeit very, very, very, very, very unlikely, that the theory of evolution by natural and sexual selection may one day turn out to be false. But then again, it is also possible, albeit very, very, very, very, very unlikely, that monkeys will fly out of my ass tomorrow. In my judgment, both events are about equally likely.




    Like gravity.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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