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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    How many hours of school are you willing to devote to learning this "science" of yours where they teach all the possibilities instead of the scientific consensus?

    Will your geography class teach the Flat Earth?
    Will your history class teach the moon walks may not have been real?
    Will your English class teach the Urban Dictionary alongside Webster's?
    Will your social studies class include evidence of UFO's, Close Encounters, and ET?

    All those are simply "opposing theories" in their respective disciplines ...
    Now you're being facetious. Of course they wouldn't teach theories that have been proven to be false.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Correction: It's a relevant term used to dispel your definition of Progression.

    It's still wrong as hell, so it comes right back into the room with the window sealed shut, walled over, and freshly painted.

    Your side is gaining momentum, but this is nowhere near at the end.
    I'm certain we had "anti-fire" cave people. And those who were certain chipping flint was an abomination.

    Fortunately they failed to convince the smarter cavefolk to sit starving in the dark.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I'm certain we had "anti-fire" cave people.
    I'm certain we didn't.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    How many hours of school are you willing to devote to learning this "science" of yours where they teach all the possibilities instead of the scientific consensus?

    Will your geography class teach the Flat Earth?
    Will your history class teach the moon walks may not have been real?
    Will your English class teach the Urban Dictionary alongside Webster's?
    Will your social studies class include evidence of UFO's, Close Encounters, and ET?

    All those are simply "opposing theories" in their respective disciplines ...
    I also have to mention that those on the left don't seem to have a problem with spending school hours talking up homosexuality. That's correct, isn't it?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    There is absolutely no reason why you can't teach all theories. It's not as complicated as you are trying to make it sound.
    Yes, by all means lets completely abandon any pretext of critical thinking and turn our schools into the real-life equivalent of our moronic conspiracy theory section.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Yes, by all means lets completely abandon any pretext of critical thinking and turn our schools into the real-life equivalent of our moronic conspiracy theory section.
    Who made such a suggestion? Be realistic will you? The most popular and accepted theories should be discussed. You might not like it, but the creationist theory is among those.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I'm certain we didn't.
    The anthropological evidence shows almost universal superstition and reverence for fire in early societies. I would bet that groups who didn't HAVE fire pretended they didn't want it at first and then eventually took the position that it was actually undesireable and then forbade it outright.

    Human nature at work.

    Until that group GOT fire, and then established a priest class to dictate how it was to be used and who could use it, probably selling licenses to "fire specialists" who extracted taxes and levied fines.

    Eventually, people got sick of this and began to ignore the "priests", using fire as they saw fit. For which they were probably burned for their heresy.

    This probably worked for a while, until enough people realized they were being had and got shed of the priests completely.

    And right up to the end there were fundamentalists who considered use of fire a sin. Because if god wanted us to have fire he'd have given us matches for fingers.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    The anthropological evidence shows almost universal superstition and reverence for fire in early societies. I would bet that groups who didn't HAVE fire pretended they didn't want it at first and then eventually took the position that it was actually undesireable and then forbade it outright.

    Human nature at work.

    Until that group GOT fire, and then established a priest class to dictate how it was to be used and who could use it, probably selling licenses to "fire specialists" who extracted taxes and levied fines.

    Eventually, people got sick of this and began to ignore the "priests", using fire as they saw fit. For which they were probably burned for their heresy.

    This probably worked for a while, until enough people realized they were being had and got shed of the priests completely.
    You should write fiction.

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And right up to the end there were fundamentalists who considered use of fire a sin. Because if god wanted us to have fire he'd have given us matches for fingers.
    Or maybe God just wanted them to come up with ideas and present them to him themselves. Of course, only the faithful would've had the capacity to do that, so the rest must have settled in, like good little Democrats, and believed what they were told to believe.
    Last edited by Dooble; 08-12-13 at 08:59 PM.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Who made such a suggestion? Be realistic will you? The most popular and accepted theories should be discussed. You might not like it, but the creationist theory is among those.
    No-- the theories actually backed by science should be taught. Appeals to popularity are fallacious,especially as they only serve the most stupid and superstitious.

    Just because absolute morons want to subvert our schools in order that he schools can match their own level of stupidity, that is not a good reason for our schools to follow suit. If they want to teach that in their churches, go right ahead. Nobody is telling them they can't teach superstion. Our schools should be under noobligation to follow suit because fortunately we aren't some inbred knuckle dragging cesspool like Afghanistan.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Who made such a suggestion? Be realistic will you? The most popular and accepted theories should be discussed. You might not like it, but the creationist theory is among those.
    They can be discussed in their appropriate subjects. Religious subjects don't belong in science class.
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