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  • Freedom of Religion

    26 56.52%
  • Mandate to Evolve

    10 21.74%
  • Both are equally crucial

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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The Republican "religion"? The Religion of Gravity?


    Sorry, your claim seems more like a half-truth.
    I have to admit to being confused about which religion a scientist might belong to ...

    does "belief" in relativity make you a heretic according to older branches of physics?

    was Alfred Wegener a prophet or the leader of a heretical sect?
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    We teach that everyone has the right to express themselves, which may include a case history on the KKK's efforts to hold a march/parade in a small town in Illinois. Does that bother me? Not at all. Why would it bother you???

    So we shouldn't teach students to be lawful?


    Wow! What a revelation!!! Are you SURE?!?!?


    All they're teaching is the law. What's your problem with that?


    All they're teaching is the law. What's your problem with that?


    Teaching facts is far from "dictating". Maybe that's your problem.
    sorry no they are not its not.

    again............... government is NOT moral authority to teach anyone.moral values, less you think some people are superior to others.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    But the same is true of ALL theories in science. When students learn about science they're taught the difference between theory and fact. How many times should the lesson be repeated - 10, 100, 1000??? Should we run through all the possibilities over and over again for each theory? Where do you draw the line, here?
    Do we have any scientists disputing the theory of relativity? No we don't.


    The perversion of science by politics and religion. It's bad enough some idiots don't want their precious learning about evolution, which is a religious preference. Now we're going to let politics dictate science, too? If that's true we may as well throw it all away and startover with the discovery of fire.
    Lol! What? I don't know of anyone except for very few who don't want their children to learn about the theory of evolution. Some of them would like the religious theory included too, that doesn't mean they're against learning about other theories as well. Why does it have to be one way or the other with some of you people?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    We often have summer weather like that here, too, but it's more like a steam room. Saunas are dry heat - like Phoenix.
    Okay, steam room then.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Do we have any scientists disputing the theory of relativity? No we don't.




    Lol! What? I don't know of anyone except for very few who don't want their children to learn about the theory of evolution. Some of them would like the religious theory included too, that doesn't mean they're against learning about other theories as well. Why does it have to be one way or the other with some of you people?
    Because there is no religious "theory" of evolution, there are beliefs and matters of faith but there is no religious theory that can be taught in a science classroom when the discussion is the evolution of species
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I have absolutely no idea how or why you defined same sex marriage as "the mandate to evolve", but we'll go with this definition for this discussion.
    No, you'll bring that discussion up with Ikari, since he's the one who admonished us "to evolve or die" during a debate about SSM. I'm just here to explore the meaning behind his cryptic warning.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    No, you'll bring that discussion up with Ikari, since he's the one who admonished us "to evolve or die" during a debate about SSM. I'm just here to explore the meaning behind his cryptic warning.
    I get the feeling you took it out of context. He probably meant you're a dinosaur who still wants to use his religion as an excuse to harass homosexuals, and he wanted you to evolve past this catastrophically cave-man like way of thinking.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I get the feeling you took it out of context. He probably meant you're a dinosaur who still wants to use his religion as an excuse to harass homosexuals, and he wanted you to evolve past this catastrophically cave-man like way of thinking.
    That's the liberal way of looking at it, but then, I'm not a creepy leftist like many others here.

    No, Ikari was pretty much being an obnoxious Democrat. That happens a lot on this forum, but still, the 'die' part of evolve or die still prompted me to explore that stupid comment.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    That's the liberal way of looking at it, but then, I'm not a creepy leftist like many others here.

    No, Ikari was pretty much being an obnoxious Democrat. That happens a lot on this forum, but still, the 'die' part of evolve or die still prompted me to explore that stupid comment.
    I don't think he's a democrat. But there is no mandate to evolve. However, you will lose in the long run. You're already largely out numbered.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    No, you'll bring that discussion up with Ikari, since he's the one who admonished us "to evolve or die" during a debate about SSM. I'm just here to explore the meaning behind his cryptic warning.
    There's nothing cryptic about it. I already told you, everything evolves. That which does not is left behind. Long dead are the notions that wearing mixed fabric is bad. Neigh extinct is the racists ideals against interracial marriage, and dying is the attitude against homosexuals. Everything is already plain to see. You can be as upset as you want, but it won't stop the march of progress.
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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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