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  • Freedom of Religion

    26 56.52%
  • Mandate to Evolve

    10 21.74%
  • Both are equally crucial

    10 21.74%
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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    then stop stealing my tax money from me for schools, and then demanding i be taught your ideology.
    everybody pays taxes no matter what. If you don't want to this isn't the nation for you.
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    government have no moral authority to teach there ideas.
    they aren't.teaching ideas. Why would you put your kids in a public school if you don't approve.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    government is composed of people...again people, just becuase they are elected, and some appointed by elected officials, does not give them power to institute their moral code on the people.
    You are right, the people have spoken, you lost. Home school your kids, you still pay taxes everybody does you aren't special because you don't want you kids to learn that it's okay to be gay.

    You can't have cake and eat it too. You clearly support public schools by having your kids attend.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    example:

    you and i have a total different point of view on sexuality....and we never are going to eye to eye because we have different ideologies.

    then i become governor of the state, and i use my power to make other people including you accept my ideology, thru the power of the schools system...is that right for me to do that..........no!
    That isn't what's occurring. Nobody is telling your kids to be gay or to accept gay people.
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    just becuase i am elected does not give me power to force on you..... my ideology.
    that isn't what is happening, the government, meaning the people have spoken, you are over ruled. That is why there are alternatives.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    elected officials are not gods, they have no power of force over people.
    There is no force, for the millionth time nobody is forcing anything on you.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by clax1911 View Post
    everybody pays taxes no matter what. If you don't want to this isn't the nation for you.
    They aren't.teaching ideas. Why would you put your kids in a public school if you don't approve.

    You are right, the people have spoken, you lost. Home school your kids, you still pay taxes everybody does you aren't special because you don't want you kids to learn that it's okay to be gay.

    You can't have cake and eat it too. You clearly support public schools by having your kids attend.

    That isn't what's occurring. Nobody is telling your kids to be gay or to accept gay people.
    That isn't what is happening, the government, meaning the people have spoken, you are over ruled. That is why there are alternatives.

    There is no force, for the millionth time nobody is forcing anything on you.
    yes, it is!

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    No it isn't, home school. Before you get on it, I think I deserve my taxes back first. Seeing as i didn't bring any kids into this works

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    No it isn't, home school. Before you get on it, I think I deserve my taxes back first.
    no i want my school taxes, and you can pay them if you wish to send your child to public school.

    vouchers for those who wish to send their children to a school of there choice.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no i want my school taxes, and you can pay them if you wish to send your child to public school.

    vouchers for those who wish to send their children to a school of there choice.
    No way screw that, vouchers for people not having kids first. they shouldn't pay a dime.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    No way screw that, vouchers for people not having kids first. they shouldn't pay a dime.

    vouchers ?......oh why are you against them....becuase you know if people have their choice they will leave the public system with its corruption, and brain washing the young.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no i want my school taxes, and you can pay them if you wish to send your child to public school.

    vouchers for those who wish to send their children to a school of there choice.
    I want all my money back fur the time I didn't have a kid in school, technically I still don't. I should get a voucher first. You could have not had kids but you did now I pay for them and you get tax breaks.

    Hell no.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    vouchers ?......oh why are you against them....becuase you know if people have their choice they will leave the public system with its corruption, and brain washing the young.
    I am not against anything, but if vouchers are being passed out because the parents aren't putting kids in school, I think I should get mine first serum as I don't technically have a kid.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    This quote even Alexander Hamilton was arguing that the general welfare phrase only applies to the powers authorize to Congress in the Constitution. Again we see the founders had a clear view of this phrase even when they seem to contradict themselves.
    And one of those powers is spending money for the general welfare. You are misinterpreting again.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    excuse me....i said no one has written more of the constitution than Madison, laid its framework, months before the convention, when it came to constitution, no one has written more on it over 45 year after it ratification.

    tell me, who have provide more information than Madison on the constitution...no one.
    Quit lying. Not everyone agreed with Madison's interpretation, making a lot of his stuff null and void.

    One signatory can't decide what is meant in a contract after-the-fact, the law doesn't work that way.
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