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  • Freedom of Religion

    26 56.52%
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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    No i wouldn't have the right to it. I have the right not to be imprisoned for paying my taxes. Money isn't being used against you of they teach your kid that homosexuality is okay, that helps you. Your kids will grow up leaving behind out dated biases.that is a good thing.

    But never the less you can always take your kids out of school. Then that money wouldn't be used against you. You would be in the position I am in.
    this is total BS on your part.

    in the 50's they taught homosexuality was wrong, and if they were still teaching it today, you would be outraged.....however becuase they are not and the wheel has turned in your favor, and they are teaching that its normal to other people who now feel outraged, your opinion is, screw them, i dont care if they are outraged, as long as i get what i want.

    and you know what , thats normal, becuase everyone anyways wants things to there advantage, no matter so ever else is at a loss.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ForcedAppeal View Post
    Clax, that should be no impediment to ONE of you claiming him as dependent. Children have single fathers regularly. (Sometimes if there's been a divorce, it's agreed which spouse will take the exemption for the child) If you provide >50% financial support, you're entitled. Check out the Member of Household or Relationship Test - sounds like you'd qualify.

    I don't know the exact circumstances, so if I'm out of line, apologies.

    Yeah, yeah - - WAAAY off topic as well.
    I appreciate your help. Being that Evan (my lover) was his older brother he could use that sanguin relationship to attain guardianship, that took several months. It was hard on the boy. He had just lost everything. But i looked into becoming a foster parent, i could get money for that, takes a long time to set up. He is going to be 15 in a month, he can be emancipated at that point, then i can claim him as a minor dependent and say my home is a safe haven for neglected youth. That is almost as good as a foster home. Plus it takes the monkey off our backs about worrying if something were to happen to Evan.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    I appreciate your help. Being that Evan (my lover) was his older brother he could use that sanguin relationship to attain guardianship, that took several months. It was hard on the boy. He had just lost everything. But i looked into becoming a foster parent, i could get money for that, takes a long time to set up. He is going to be 15 in a month, he can be emancipated at that point, then i can claim him as a minor dependent and say my home is a safe haven for neglected youth. That is almost as good as a foster home. Plus it takes the monkey off our backs about worrying if something were to happen to Evan.

    Good luck with everything. Seriously.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this is total BS on your part.

    in the 50's they taught homosexuality was wrong, and if they were still teaching it today, you would be outraged.....however becuase they are not and the wheel has turned in your favor, and they are teaching that its normal to other people who now feel outraged, your opinion is, screw them, i dont care if they are outraged, as long as i get what i want.

    and you know what , thats normal, becuase everyone anyways wants things to there advantage, no matter so ever else is at a loss.
    This post would be of value of you lost anything. You don't. There is nothing wrong with teaching kids that bring gay is okay, just like there is no harm in teaching that it's okay to worship Buda.

    The problem is that you think it's wrong, fine, think it's wrong, HOME SCHOOL . I am sorry you can't have your cake and eat it also. Teaching kids that something like homosexuality is wrong is about like teaching that religion is wrong. You should be outraged what if your kid was gay?

    Yes it is in my favor, but if they were teaching that it was wrong to be a evangelical nut job I would have a problem with that.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ForcedAppeal View Post
    Good luck with everything. Seriously.
    Thank you sir?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i dont care if they are outraged, as long as i get what i want.
    This is true, you're even willing to steal my money, take my lunch, to get it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This is true, you're even willing to steal my money, take my lunch, to get it.

    sorry will not work with me, dont even try.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry will not work with me, dont even try.
    I don't care if it "will work with" you. You'll steal my money and you make all the excuses for it. But should some fella try to take YOUR lunch....well then it's hell to pay. I ain't gotta make it "work with" you, it's but plain truth. You'll steal my money for your kids. You'll steal my labor for your house, you'll use government gun against my prosperity to fund your own. But should some poor sap ever, and the Rock means EVER, dare suggest you sacrifice YOUR lunch...well then we're gonna hear about it. Carpet baggers...socialists in disguise.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't care if it "will work with" you. You'll steal my money and you make all the excuses for it. But should some fella try to take YOUR lunch....well then it's hell to pay. I ain't gotta make it "work with" you, it's but plain truth. You'll steal my money for your kids. You'll steal my labor for your house, you'll use government gun against my prosperity to fund your own. But should some poor sap ever, and the Rock means EVER, dare suggest you sacrifice YOUR lunch...well then we're gonna hear about it. Carpet baggers...socialists in disguise.
    please provide how i steal your money?

    please make it good.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the general welfare is the 18 powers of congress, how many times must i say this.......and one thing i do not believe you will understand is...the founders created a nation where the federal government would not be in the personal life's of the people.

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    black text is a power of congress, while red text is a duty of congress.

    as for the translation, lets here from someone else on the subject.

    <snip - more quotes>

    "No objection ought to arise to this construction from a supposition that it would imply a power to do whatever else should appear to Congress conducive to the General Welfare. A power to appropriate money with this latitude which is granted too in express terms would not carry a power to do any other thing, not authorised in the constitution, either expressly or by fair implication"

    It appears from this quote even Alexander Hamilton was arguing that the general welfare phrase only applies to the powers authorize to Congress in the Constitution. Again we see the founders had a clear view of this phrase even when they seem to contradict themselves.
    Here Hamilton is talking about things other then spending money. The federal government does not have a school district it runs. It is doing nothing but spending money on education, which also includes coordination and research in education. (Spending money on research is also acceptable.) It is not localizing one area, it is spreading those funds out to every state of the union. All of this is 100% within the powers of Congress under the general welfare clause. Quit being dense and/or dishonest.
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