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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    what is "mandate to evolve"?
    some wierd hippy stuff?



    That is the rule which states that you will evolve, whether you like it or not.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    And the United states supreme court agrees that it does not have that power.

    Wisconsin v. Yoder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You don't have to attend public school. And besides nobody has suggested that the federal government is involved in education. The tenth amendment made that a state right.

    Wisconsin v. Yoder, 406 U.S. 205 (1972), is the case in which the United States Supreme Court found that Amish children could not be placed under compulsory education past 8th grade. The parents' fundamental right to freedom of religion outweighed the state's interest in educating its children.


    compulsory education......note the word "compulsory"

    Some kind of education is compulsory to all people in most countries, but different localities vary in how many years or grades of education they require. Due to population growth and the proliferation of compulsory education, UNESCO calculated in 2006 that over the subsequent 30 years more people would receive formal education than in all prior human history.[11] It is possible in many countries for parents to provide education for children by homeschooling, although this is often monitored for adherence to national standards.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_education

    United States about 6-17 Varies by state. Beginning age varies 5-8, ending age varies 15-18.[17] Some states allow early leave with parental approval.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It is arrogant to believe you're right when you're but a novice.

    what does delegated power mean to you?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you wish to listen to men, who wish to use the constitution for there own vises.

    i choose to listen to a man who laid its foundation.......who stated clearly the government is not supposed to be in education. and i posted his statement already showing you that he said it.
    No,I understand the nature of language. I understand that what seems clear seldom is. That's why I've a better recording predicting the court than you and others.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    what does delegated power mean to you?
    Too narrow a question. Words never stand by themselves. The document is rather large and within a context. That is why you often see reality different than you believe it should be.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Evolution, either physically, or psychologically, cannot be mandated.



    Maybe not,But teaching it can be mandated.

    Read about it here: UK Government Mandates the Teaching of Evolution As Scientific Fact - Slashdot

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Why does evolution and Religion have to be in conflict?



    So that we have something to talk about.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Same response as above.
    He is pretending he people are bring forced to attended public school, this is dead wrong, the supreme court ruled on this you have the right to opt out of public school in all fifty states, no exceptions.

    If the force is paying taxes to local school districts, that is simply reality. I have to pay taxes to things I don't agree with, everyday does. That is life.

    But parents to lazy or too cheap to opt out are not forced, their children's education is simply not a priority to them until their kids are told that it's okay to be gay. They are imprinting their prejudice onto their children, they are free to do that but they can't demand that the school do it.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Too narrow a question. Words never stand by themselves. The document is rather large and within a context. That is why you often see reality different than you believe it should be.

    nothing narrow about it.

    the founders state government has 18 powers only and they are enumerated clearly, anything outside them is unconstitutional.

    “Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.” – Thomas Jefferson, 1798

    “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined . . . to be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce.” – James Madison, Federalist 45

    No legislative act … contrary to the Constitution can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 78

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    He is pretending he people are bring forced to attended public school, this is dead wrong, the supreme court ruled on this you have the right to opt out of public school in all fifty states, no exceptions.

    If the force is paying taxes to local school districts, that is simply reality. I have to pay taxes to things I don't agree with, everyday does. That is life.

    But parents to lazy or too cheap to opt out are not forced, their children's education is simply not a priority to them until their kids are told that it's okay to be gay. They are imprinting their prejudice onto their children, they are free to do that but they can't demand that the school do it.
    sorry schooling is mandated.... its not optional.

    now if you home school or private school , when you not mandated to go to public school....but one takes a parents time, and the other one's own money

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