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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    For sometime who claims to be intelligent you sure do jump to stupid conclusions an awful lot. I read doodle's nonsense, dismissed it for being nonsense and explained the stupidity in your question.

    Two occasions I have made a single post to you and you became extremely rude.
    Are you really so petty?... Wait dint answer that, I heard all your nonsense and posturing before, when it comes to religion I am your superior.
    I have a low tolerance for stupid. You should know this by now.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Indeed they aren't.
    Very good, Ikari! You're beginning to see already!

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    My tools are voltmeters and oscilloscopes and atoms and light and spectroscopy and a plethora of other devices for measurement.
    My tools are just faith and scriptures. See how difficult you're trying to make this?

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    So where is your measurable value. Proof is in the measurement.
    It's in my daily activities. We were put here to love God and keep His commandments. Which tool do you use to measure your love and obedience, a voltmeter?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that's all you have?........i see, nothing in your court thats supports you argument.

    Again for you....... Education is not a delegated power listed in the constitution, your fantasy land ideas, of government can do as it will is ridiculous, and it looks bad for you showing you don't know the constitution.
    I can see you have read the link close enough. But maybe you'll do better with the next links:

    Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution granted Congress the power to lay and collect taxes to provide for the general welfare of the United States. It is under this “general welfare” clause that the federal government has assumed the power to initiate educational activity in its own right and to participate jointly with states, agencies and individuals in educational activities.

    http://www.lwv.org/content/history-f...id-we-get-here

    The U.S. Constitution and Education.
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    Although education is primarily a state function, its importance to our society makes it fertile ground for litigation. The Constitution--by authorizing the Congress to enact legislation--constrains and prescribes what happens in schools. Legislative histories, especially since the early 1960s, are outlined here. The major topics include: constitutional limits on the inculcation of religious, political, and moral values; freedom of expression for teachers and students in the school environment; the free exercise of religion; the requirements of fair procedures in the school environment; and the obligation to provide equal educational opportunity. (BZ)

    http://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED270346
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    if school would teach being gay is not a crime, and that being gay does not mean a person is bad, ..that's fine.
    Just as long as they dint use the word normal?, same thing.
    However for a school in tell children, that homosexuality is fine and good, conflicts with other teachings which the child may have received.
    So what that teachings conflict, if you don't have the ability to tell your kids that the school is wrong put them in private school.
    Why is the school undermining other teachings...my point is the schools should not be engaged in such activity at all ...its not governments place.
    Schools aren't undermining anything. What activity are you talking about? The schools are operated by the government.
    The other avenues you mentioned are fine, and solve the problem, however the state will not give the parents there tax money, and mandate their children attend public schools.
    No government can't mandate you attend public school. I had to pay taxes for the 35 years I had no children in school. Everybody pays taxes.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I have a low tolerance for stupid. You should know this by now.
    you are trolling again.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Very good, Ikari! You're beginning to see already!

    My tools are just faith and scriptures. See how difficult you're trying to make this?

    It's in my daily activities. We were put here to love God and keep His commandments. Which tool do you use to measure your love and obedience, a voltmeter?
    Faith and scriptures are not proof, those are wishful thinking. You said proof, proof means measurement. I want the measurement. You got it, or can you admit to your fib?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    You don't tolerate yourself? That is an issue you may need a shrunk to resolve.
    A "shrink"? Maybe, but I'll have to wait till you're done.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Faith and scriptures are not proof, those are wishful thinking.
    So are "voltmeters and oscilloscopes and atoms and light and spectroscopy and a plethora of other devices for measurement" unless you know how to use them. I don't know how to use those things, so they're just wishful thinking. Do you know how to use faith and scriptures?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You said proof, proof means measurement. I want the measurement. You got it, or can you admit to your fib?
    You don't have the right tools to gauge my faith and obedience. How can I help you when you have the wrong equipment?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    So are "voltmeters and oscilloscopes and atoms and light and spectroscopy and a plethora of other devices for measurement" unless you know how to use them. I don't know how to use those things, so they're just wishful thinking. Do you know how to use faith and scriptures?

    You don't have the right tools to gauge my faith and obedience. How can I help you when you have the wrong equipment?
    I know that things people claimed to have happen thousands of years ago without proper proof or documentation cannot be shown beyond the fiction they represent. Do you have a measurement, or do you have no proof. That's it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    A "shrink"? Maybe, but I'll have to wait till you're done.
    Keep trolling.

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