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  • Freedom of Religion

    26 56.52%
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  • Both are equally crucial

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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I can think of lots of reasons why atheists would LOVE to present science to religious children. "THIS is how the Universe works" (leaving no question in religious children's minds that this teacher believes there is absolutely ZERO room for God in the "real world"). God doesn't even have to be mentioned in this case.
    Talk about feverish! The Conspiracy Theory section is down the hall and to the right.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by AuntiE View Post
    Not a single year did I not receive a copy of such standards. Further I had to sign a copy as well as my progeny.
    Obviously not a universal practice.

    But I still have to wonder why people are so against tolerance.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Nope. That is why I put the quote marks around the word "religious". A rather common, although mostly amongst those less than 40, to indicate an ironical take on the word or phrase with the single quote marks - also called "scare quotes". In this instance it should be read as stating, "Some of those Americans who call themselves religious" - see? Much easier to use the scare quotes but as I type, I realise that the majority of posters here are not under the age of 40
    I'm not even close to being under 40 and I use quote marks quite often, including the way you just did. Maybe it's a "Liberal" thing?
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i mean the government with an agenda.....a student lead agenda, is not going change the shape of the world.

    i want the federal government out of our schools, becuase its unconstitutional for them to be there.....education is not in the constitution
    Do you really want the government to take away its funding?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    I'm not a fan of hyperbole. I am a fan of logical thinking. If you go back and read what you wrote then you will see that you DID advocate teachers teaching morality. I think they should teach their subject matter. Stopping pupims from assaulting or bullying each other is not the same as teaching them morals. There are other settings for that.
    You are incorrigible.
    What are pupims?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Do you really want the government to take away its funding?

    the federal government has no authority in education.

    that is the state power.

    the u.s. is suppose to practice federalism.

    just becuase government is doing something and some people like and thinks its the right thing to do, its still not legal.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the federal government has no authority in education.

    that is the state power.

    the u.s. is suppose to practice federalism.

    just becuase government is doing something and some people like and thinks its the right thing to do, its still not legal.

    All three levels of government, federal, state, and local, contribute to education funding. Do a little research.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Talk about feverish! The Conspiracy Theory section is down the hall and to the right.
    Thanks for the directions. But why are you giving them to me?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    All three levels of government, federal, state, and local, contribute to education funding. Do a little research.
    you need to read, i will point you in the right direction.

    the u.s. constitution article 1 section 8 are the powers of congress, there are 18 powers.

    education is not in the 18 powers of congress.

    education is a state power.

    "all powers not delegated to the federal government by the constitution ,shall remain the power of the states and the people"
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I can think of lots of reasons why atheists would LOVE to present science to religious children. "THIS is how the Universe works" (leaving no question in religious children's minds that this teacher believes there is absolutely ZERO room for God in the "real world"). God doesn't even have to be mentioned in this case.
    So sorry if you're imaginary deity can't stand up to the scientific method. You do, however, have a few options. One, admit that this deity doesn't dwell in the natural world (that would probably eliminate omnipotence, though). Two, say the deity dwells in the natural world but doesn't wish to be discovered (that would probably promote a malevolent or trickster god and promote a dystheistic approach). Or three, admit that it's probably a crock. Of course, there are more options, but those are the three main ones I'd focus on.

    And, like MoSurveyor said, if you wish to continue this conspiracy talk, might I recommend you to a the "Conspiracy Theories" subforum. You should feel right at home there with the Birthers, the Truthers, and the Moon-deniers.
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