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  • Freedom of Religion

    26 56.52%
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    10 21.74%
  • Both are equally crucial

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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no?..... government has forced the teaching of the gay agenda, wherever gay marriage has been made legal,......with CA being about the worst offender.

    government applies force to the people all the time, to make them do things, just becuase government wants us to do it, even though they have no such authority.
    What the **** is the gay agenda? You would think I would know...
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Care to document exactly what you are talking about?
    How same-sex "marriage" affects Massachusetts

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What the **** is the gay agenda? You would think I would know...
    it is the idea that homosexuality is normal and good,nothing wrong with it.........and thats ok for people who wish to believe that way.

    however there are people who dont believe that, and their concerns are not being heard, and listened to, and overruled.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well i agree with you, those who have power always use it , to move the ball in their favor.

    which is why i am a libertarian, and the idea is to secure the rights of the people, and leave them alone.
    People won't realize what they've lost until it is way too late.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    How about from a non fringe element lunatic source.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How about from a non fringe element lunatic source.

    you asked me for proof, and i gave you one...and they have cases stated, taking about subjects of the public schools concerning homosexuality............then you are going to throw it out the window, becuase you dont like it.....
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i know what you believe.

    your from the left, and i have argued with many many people of the left over this position, ...and that position is always the same .

    AGENT J [who loves this kind of discussion ]........ has stated to me, "people will be forced to accept homosexuality "

    it is fact that wherever homosexual relationships has been had legal by the state, the subject is brought into the public schools of those states next, and force applied to people over it...and people wonder why other people are opposed to gay marriage.

    if government would get out of the business of trying to force things on the people, you would see opposition to gay marriage less than it is now.
    If only that were true but history tells us that bigotry of all kinds does not lend itself to voluntary abolition. Just look at the 100 years that the blacks waited and it STILL took a Constitutional amendment and Federal enforcement to end segregation. Bigotry is passed on through parents and it is only common sense that schools need to play a role in opposing bigotry.
    Did you think that schools teaching that segregation of blacks was wrong were "forcing things on people" too?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If only that were true but history tells us that bigotry of all kinds does not lend itself to voluntary abolition. Just look at the 100 years that the blacks waited and it STILL took a Constitutional amendment and Federal enforcement to end segregation. Bigotry is passed on through parents and it is only common sense that schools need to play a role in opposing bigotry.
    Did you think that schools teaching that segregation of blacks was wrong were "forcing things on people" too?
    whether someone teaches their children to be a bigot or not...its not ours or anyone's else business to teach them differently, ..you and government are not the parents of the child..when did children become the property of the state.

    government is not here to make us moral or immoral, becuase government is composed of people who have their own set of values.

    i am not for government teaching anyone to be against anyone, but in the same breath i not for government telling people they WILL learn XYZ.

    a person's behavior is not yours or government's affair, if that person has committed no crime...........you and government want to shape people to your liking....and thats not right.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I think the Left disagrees with you.
    I think you don't know what 'left' means. I'm so far left I'm illegal in 12 states and I say that not only can't evolution be mandated, it's probably getting close to some nazi, state-controlled eugenics scheme to suggest it can.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    it is the idea that homosexuality is normal and good,nothing wrong with it.........and thats ok for people who wish to believe that way.

    however there are people who dont believe that, and their concerns are not being heard, and listened to, and overruled.
    'wish to believe', is that like deciding how to feel? And as for the people who 'don't believe that', their concerns have been heard, listened to and made the law of the land. Recently, it's been brought up that maybe the concerns of a few shouldn't be the law of the land and this has caused all the moral outrage. Do you think the state has the right to 'mandate' morality?

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