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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So many things wrong here. What you think "the left" believes, and what I believe are two different things. Your fact​ isn't. The government is not trying to force anything on you in regards to gays and SSM.
    no?..... government has forced the teaching of the gay agenda, wherever gay marriage has been made legal,......with CA being about the worst offender.

    government applies force to the people all the time, to make them do things, just becuase government wants us to do it, even though they have no such authority.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    oh, say not so.....when gay marriage was made legal in MASS. it was brought in to the classes rooms of the schools very quickly, ........that gay marriage just a normal thing.

    however many parents complained and objected to it being taught to there children, to which the state said ..."to bad they are going to learn it anyway".

    then the parents wanted their tax money for schools to be given to them, so they could send there children to a school of their choice, the state said no ,...........you cannot have your money.

    so they are taking people's money [ and will not give it back, and many people cannot afford to pay for their childs education], and mandating that their children go to public schools and be taught things the parents disagree with.
    As a republic, it's members do not PERSONALLY decide how to allocate their tax dollars, so the money argument is moot.

    How old are the children you're talking about and in what class exactly are they 'teaching' gay marriage? Just curious.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Science class is not the place for ancient history either. Bibles don't belong in public school...EVER. Or Korans for that matter unless the class is Religion and then we need to teach ALL religions equally.
    Then how are we to teach the history that created and shaped our society today and continues to influence it? Besides history, there is also government. Maybe sociology.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Does that make historical fiction novels true too?
    No. Because those portions that are fictional can be shown to be fictional. However, the bible has not been proven to be fictional and archeology continues to prove more and more of it.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ForcedAppeal View Post
    As a republic, it's members do not PERSONALLY decide how to allocate their tax dollars, so the money argument is moot.

    How old are the children you're talking about and in what class exactly are they 'teaching' gay marriage? Just curious.

    taxes are gathered and used for the benefit of all.

    however when the people in charge of institution use that tax money, to put forth and promote an agenda....that is the problem...and its being done a lot today .

    the agenda has been that homosexuality is fine and good, normal.....if someone wants to believe that...thats fine with me.

    but dont demand and tell others that they must believe it too using the school system.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There is at least as much that science and archaeology show to not be literally true as what is known to be true. For example we know that the Israelites where not where the old testament claims on multiple occasions.
    Which ones? You mean like in the land of the Canaanites during the 10th Century BC, oops, that is right, a discovery last year is no believed to prove that they were. Some also believe they have found the site of the battle between David and Goliath (who in modern times would of been a Palestinian, they were trying to kill Israeli's even back then).

    Or maybe the belief that Augustus Caesar never ordered the census/tax that lead Joseph back to Bethlehem, oops, they have not found documentation of that also.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    taxes are gathered and used for the benefit of all.
    In theory. In practice, not so much.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    however when the people in charge of institution use that tax money, to put forth and promote an agenda....that is the problem...and its being done a lot today .
    Every single credit or tax deduction on your tax return is someone's agenda codified into law. Tax dollars have always been collected and spent based on varying agendas that may or may not be good for the nation or you as a member of the nation. What are ya gonna do?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ForcedAppeal View Post
    Every single credit or tax deduction on your tax return is someone's agenda codified into law. Tax dollars have always been collected and spent based on varying agendas that may or may not be good for the nation or you as a member of the nation. What are ya gonna do?
    well i agree with you, those who have power always use it , to move the ball in their favor.

    which is why i am a libertarian, and the idea is to secure the rights of the people, and leave them alone.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    oh, say not so.....when gay marriage was made legal in MASS. it was brought in to the classes rooms of the schools very quickly, ........that gay marriage just a normal thing.

    however many parents complained and objected to it being taught to there children, to which the state said ..."to bad they are going to learn it anyway".

    then the parents wanted their tax money for schools to be given to them, so they could send there children to a school of their choice, the state said no ,...........you cannot have your money.

    so they are taking people's money [ and will not give it back, and many people cannot afford to pay for their childs education], and mandating that their children go to public schools and be taught things the parents disagree with.
    Care to document exactly what you are talking about?
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