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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Admittedly, I'm confused with your statement.
    If a teacher assigns a book, let's say To Kill A Mockingbird, and the pupils read the book, do you think most would draw their own conclusion?
    Should the teacher interject his/her own knowledge about the subject?
    The teacher should guide the students along and hopefully they learn how to draw their own conclusions sadly most students only take a book at it's face value. The same people who take a book only at face value are the same people who follow the bible literally and don't question what it means this includes creationists.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    And you are the ultimate authority on what is and is not a fairy tale?

    You may believe the Bible to be a fairy tale, but it does in fact contain a lot of actual history. More truth in that book than what atheist choose to call "fiction", get over it.
    Science class is not the place for ancient history either. Bibles don't belong in public school...EVER. Or Korans for that matter unless the class is Religion and then we need to teach ALL religions equally.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    The teacher should guide the students along and hopefully they learn how to draw their own conclusions sadly most students only take a book at it's face value. The same people who take a book only at face value are the same people who follow the bible literally and don't question what it means this includes creationists.
    It's a fact that not all students are interested in learning; therefore, some become lazy and feckless citizens.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Admittedly, I'm confused with your statement.
    If a teacher assigns a book, let's say To Kill A Mockingbird, and the pupils read the book, do you think most would draw their own conclusion?
    Should the teacher interject his/her own knowledge about the subject?
    There is a difference in reading a work of fiction and studying science. You know this but since you have nothing else......

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    And you are the ultimate authority on what is and is not a fairy tale?

    You may believe the Bible to be a fairy tale, but it does in fact contain a lot of actual history. More truth in that book than what atheist choose to call "fiction", get over it.
    There is at least as much that science and archaeology show to not be literally true as what is known to be true. For example we know that the Israelites where not where the old testament claims on multiple occasions.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    evolution does not need a mandate, evolution is eternal and unstoppable. Evolution is everywhere and nowhere. Most religions/religious movements are evolving as are there followers.

    If someone wants to be in a religion, that is their free choice (even though I cannot see the use or the need for it, but that is just me), but that does not change the fact of evolution (not just talking about Darwin but in general).
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Science class is not the place for ancient history either. Bibles don't belong in public school...EVER. Or Korans for that matter unless the class is Religion and then we need to teach ALL religions equally.
    If religion is the language of transcendence, would you give teachers permission to mention it?

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    There is a difference between teaching that something exists and teaching that something is wrong.
    becuase you want them to teach something you believe is right.

    and the question amounts to this:

    why is it i IF i wanted to teach that homosexuality is wrong.....your against it....

    but if you want to teach homosexuality is right, your for it.

    why is it you get to make the decisions of what is taught.

    my point of view [libertarian] is neither one should not be taught at all.

    this goes back to the same old problems of the world ,of people wanting to force other people to do things.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Science class is not the place for ancient history either. Bibles don't belong in public school...EVER. Or Korans for that matter unless the class is Religion and then we need to teach ALL religions equally.
    Too narrow. Both can provide context in History and Current Events classes. I had to read some of both in a literature class in high school.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    becuase you want them to teach something you believe is right.

    and the question amounts to this:

    why is it i IF i wanted to teach that homosexuality is wrong.....your against it....

    but if you want to teach homosexuality is right, your for it.

    why is it you get to make the decisions of what is taught.

    my point of view is either one should not be taught at all.

    this goes back to the same old problems of the world ,of people wanting to force other people to do things.
    You are making an incorrect assumption here. It is where you give me a position I did not take. Can you figure out where?
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