View Poll Results: Which is more crucial

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  • Freedom of Religion

    26 56.52%
  • Mandate to Evolve

    10 21.74%
  • Both are equally crucial

    10 21.74%
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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I do not consider science itself a threat to religion. I do, however, consider atheists presenting science a threat to religion. Does that make sense?
    Honestly not really. I thought the discussion was about teaching evolution and abiogenesis in schools unless I missed something.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Honestly not really. I thought the discussion was about teaching evolution and abiogenesis in schools unless I missed something.
    You missed something. Science, itself, is crucial. Atheistic spin on science, is not. When you suggested that science could be a threat to religion, I submit that it was your inner atheist talking.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm sure it's not nearly the same level as teen/20s STD levels. I'm pretty sure that is the highest age group for STDs and unwanted pregnancies.
    You are correct; however, in the past several years, I have had to be involved with several elders. It is has not be made very public, but there is a significant rise occurring. Elder residences are actually talking with the children of elders about this issue in attempt to stem the tide. It is quite embarrassing to have to converse with an elder concerning such matters!

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Honestly not really. I thought the discussion was about teaching evolution and abiogenesis in schools unless I missed something.
    It has turned into a free-for-all on pretty much anything someone thinks makes religion and science at odds with each other. Those are within the bounds, so go for it.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    You missed something. Science, itself, is crucial. Atheistic spin on science, is not. When you suggested that science could be a threat to religion, I submit that it was your inner atheist talking.
    Well obviously. A naturalistic understanding of the Universe which has expanded considerable in the past century indicates to me that a God is unlikely. This comes from physics, biology, neuroscience, archeology, chemistry, etc in that they provide strong indications of an alternative and in my opinion superior explanation for the world around us. But they are not 'atheistic' in and of themselves, and I'm not sure what an atheistic spin on teaching them would look like.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Yes, there's a unified Right. It's called "the Right." They may not have the numbers you like, but that doesn't equate to them not existing. True enough about the Right - they are essentially, the party that is against the Left - is that really a platform, though? That's not helping a situation.Come up with your own solution, not just denouncing the other guy's. Both parties, however, are useless, corrupt, and idiotic.
    The left is pretty much, despite their other differences, unified on using government to control society. Frankly, I can often agree with a lot of what they want to accomplish, I just don't agree with how (using the government to do it) they want to do it.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I do not consider science itself a threat to religion. I do, however, consider atheists presenting science a threat to religion. Does that make sense?
    Nope. It seems like imagined hysterics.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nope. It seems like imagined hysterics.
    Or justified concern:

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    The left is pretty much, despite their other differences, unified on using government to control society. Frankly, I can often agree with a lot of what they want to accomplish, I just don't agree with how (using the government to do it) they want to do it.
    That's great, but don't sit there screaming "Nuh-uh!" at them without your own solution.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    "Mandate to Evolve"? Shouldn't we get the License to Mutate first?
    The government will tax that.
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