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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually they are just like every one else, except for one thing that has no effect on any one not in a relationship with them.

    I want people judged on their actions, not who or what they are, and that only extends to how people act towards others in certain situations. You are free to hate on gays all you want. I cannot stop you from exercising that right, but we can stop you from using that hate to infringe on the rights of gays. Students do not have a right to bully for example, but they do have a right in school to not be bullied.
    I don't hate anyone other than those who's actions are harmful to others. You want to equate the fact the I find homosexuality to be an aberration of normal sexual impulses and Marriage, even today, to have evolved from instincts to take a mate and care for the offspring of that mating to be hatred. Hatred has nothing to do with it, other than most homosexuals are leftist, but then that is hate for their action which are harmful to our society and the human race, not their sexuality.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I don't hate anyone other than those who's actions are harmful to others. You want to equate the fact the I find homosexuality to be an aberration of normal sexual impulses and Marriage, even today, to have evolved from instincts to take a mate and care for the offspring of that mating to be hatred. Hatred has nothing to do with it, other than most homosexuals are leftist, but then that is hate for their action which are harmful to our society and the human race, not their sexuality.
    How is homosexuality harmful to our society? And, no, normal sexual impulses include homosexual behaviors (see: Nature).
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not exactly, no. I made what you actually did say superfluous. School is not taking a position on god in terms of evolution since it has nothing to do with it.
    I kinda get Artevelde's point, although I think there is a bit of misunderstanding on his part. And, Redress, though I personally agree that god has nothing to do with evolution such positive statements can cause reading failure amongst some who post here.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not exactly, no. I made what you actually did say superfluous. School is not taking a position on god in terms of evolution since it has nothing to do with it.
    Now you are writing something which is at variance with what you wrote before. Whether or not God had anything to do with evolution is not something the school can judge about. God may have something to do with it or not. But since the school (a state school that is) cannot Judge it cannot and should not deal with God one way or another when teaching evolution theory.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why would they even mention god in relation to evolution. The two have nothing to do with each other.
    Because tests have been conducted to see if life can begin without intelligent interference. You know atheists are feverish in their attempts to discover that brainless forces are responsible for the origination of mankind. It's not a stretch to say that this kind of nonsense could creep into children's text books.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Now you are writing something which is at variance with what you wrote before. Whether or not God had anything to do with evolution is not something the school can judge about. God may have something to do with it or not. But since the school (a state school that is) cannot Judge it cannot and should not deal with God one way or another when teaching evolution theory.
    Well that's good because gods are certainly not discussed in positive or negative ways when discussing evolution.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    And? What does this have to do with evolution?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Because tests have been conducted to see if life can begin without intelligent interference.
    Only atheists believe the Theory of Evolution provides the best explanation for the "origination of mankind"?
    You know atheists are feverish in their attempts to discover that brainless forces are responsible for the origination of mankind.
    Specifically, what "kind of nonsense" are you talking about?
    It's not a stretch to say that this kind of nonsense could creep into children's text books.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I don't hate anyone other than those who's actions are harmful to others. You want to equate the fact the I find homosexuality to be an aberration of normal sexual impulses and Marriage, even today, to have evolved from instincts to take a mate and care for the offspring of that mating to be hatred. Hatred has nothing to do with it, other than most homosexuals are leftist, but then that is hate for their action which are harmful to our society and the human race, not their sexuality.
    I did not mean to suggest you did hate them. I said you where free to, not that you did. It's that liberal reading comprehension, so vile...

    By the way, you are aware that evolution can account for homosexuality? That that being the case, it kinda ruins your whole argument?
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I kinda get Artevelde's point, although I think there is a bit of misunderstanding on his part. And, Redress, though I personally agree that god has nothing to do with evolution such positive statements can cause reading failure amongst some who post here.
    That would be a problem if I had actually said that. Let's see what I actually said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why would they even mention god in relation to evolution. The two have nothing to do with each other.
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    Science does not study the question of god. Whether god had a hand in evolution is in no way knowable. God has nothing to do with the study of evolution, and evolution has nothing to do with god in this context.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    Now you are writing something which is at variance with what you wrote before. Whether or not God had anything to do with evolution is not something the school can judge about. God may have something to do with it or not. But since the school (a state school that is) cannot Judge it cannot and should not deal with God one way or another when teaching evolution theory.
    Evolution is a science. God is not part of the study of science. Why is this hard?
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