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  • Freedom of Religion

    26 56.52%
  • Mandate to Evolve

    10 21.74%
  • Both are equally crucial

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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Yep, intolerant bullies and abusers should not be tolerated
    Nobody is advocating the tolerating of bullies or abusers in school.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    If schools understand that evolution cannot explain away God, and they present the subject in this light, then I have no problem with my kid sitting in their classrooms.
    Why would they even mention god in relation to evolution. The two have nothing to do with each other.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, my son did, every year I have to sign and return a paper stating that he and I have gone over and agree to the rules and regulations and also the code of discipline that the school employs. Those things are reinforced with punishment for bad behavior.
    Applying personal experience with one school to a broad spectrum, public schools across the country, does not provide valid rationale for saying ALL schools act as your personal experience has shown with one school.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Not all religious people find homosexuality as offensive as some people on this thread seem to feel.

    binary thinking seldom provides good answers. (please note the word 'seldom' in the sentence. it is there to indicate that sometimes, but infrequently, binary thinking may provide a good answer)
    That's not my point. To be fair to all sides, nothing of a judgmental nature should be taught unless all sides can be taught. And since all sides cannot be taught, nothing should be said at all.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why would they even mention god in relation to evolution. The two have nothing to do with each other.
    They may or they may not, but it is not for state schools to tell.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    If schools understand that evolution cannot explain away God, and they present the subject in this light, then I have no problem with my kid sitting in their classrooms.
    Schools do not discuss God when teaching evolution, so you have nothing to worry about.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    They may or they may not, but it is not for state schools to tell.
    Science does not study the question of god. Whether god had a hand in evolution is in no way knowable. God has nothing to do with the study of evolution, and evolution has nothing to do with god in this context.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    so government can take my money, and teach my religion sucks?
    If you are a citizen of the country and your religion teaches X, X being something that does not coincide with reality, then YES - your children attending a public school will be taught that your religion "sucks"

    If you interpret a school directive that says your child may not physically or verbally abuse other students as the equivalent of saying your religion "sucks", you have a problem with the system of the place you reside.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Science does not study the question of god. Whether god had a hand in evolution is in no way knowable. God has nothing to do with the study of evolution, and evolution has nothing to do with god in this context.
    You rephrased what I wrote.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    You rephrased what I wrote.
    Not exactly, no. I made what you actually did say superfluous. School is not taking a position on god in terms of evolution since it has nothing to do with it.
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