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  • Freedom of Religion

    26 56.52%
  • Mandate to Evolve

    10 21.74%
  • Both are equally crucial

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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    So they should teach children to tolerate everything that is legal, including prostitution, gambling, smoking, etc. wherever this is legal? And they should teach children to tolerate polygamy in countries where that is legal?
    You should look up the concept of tolerance because it's clear from your post that you don't understand it.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Hey Ernst, I have asked this question a couple different ways here and you keep running from it. How about answering the question.
    Well, the creationists do continue their battle with reality but I think Ernst would promote the "critical thinking" approach on the evolution question.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    One might ask, Why do the most religious states have the highest teen birth rates? Why do the bible belt states have the highest divorce rates? Why are the poorest states to be found among the most religious states?
    Don't know--California has far more households in poverty than any poor religious state and they have outlawed God.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is not quite that simple. For example, teaching that slavery or naziism is wrong is pretty safe. Note that I have not suggested schools should teach that homosexuality is morally OK. It is however just fine to teach that it exists.
    I think just exposing the kids to the facts, most of them would realize that it's wrong without someone actually saying "it's wrong." OTH, I personally really don't have a problem with them saying something like that is wrong.

    I think that things like personal sexuality are not necessary and shouldn't fall under curriculum, unless it's mentioned during a sex education class, and then should be approached with neutrality. Sex education class should focus more on the options of protection, responsibility, results of irresponsible sex, etc.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You should look up the concept of tolerance because it's clear from your post that you don't understand it.
    I cannot understand why the 'religious' are so against teaching kids that physically and verbally abusing their classmates is not acceptable. For those who are, or claim to be, Christian, it does seem that far too many fail to understand a central precept of their particular faith.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You should look up the concept of tolerance because it's clear from your post that you don't understand it.
    It's clear from your reactions when confronted with some logic that to you tolerance extends to those things that you personally find tolerable.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Don't know--California has far more households in poverty than any poor religious state and they have outlawed God.
    How do you outlaw god?
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I cannot understand why the 'religious' are so against teaching kids that physically and verbally abusing their classmates is not acceptable. For those who are, or claim to be, Christian, it does seem that far too many fail to understand a central precept of their particular faith.
    What do you mean by "teaching them?" I would think that punishment for such things would be teaching them that it's unacceptable behavior. That is not the purpose of school. That is the role of parents.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What do you mean by "teaching them?" I would think that punishment for such things would be teaching them that it's unacceptable behavior. That is not the purpose of school. That is the role of parents.
    Punishment is teaching. It is called negative reinforcement.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How do you outlaw god?
    He must pray to a very wimpy god, easily pushed around.

    Since Jesus instructed His followers to not be like play actors praying to be seen, but to simply go behind closed doors and pray silently in private, it appears to be a different god than the one Jesus represented. His God is much bigger than that.
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