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Thread: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    really .....so your going to have the school teach things to my child things which I object to on a religious level.

    so if the schools were to teach homosexuality is wrong, and use tax money to do it your ok with that to?
    So if your religion objects to science, should it not be taught in public schools?
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    So as I said, it is an extremely tiny fringe.
    Call it that if it makes you feel better
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    So I guess schools should also teach tolerance of polygamy or incest?
    I was unaware that any relationship (other than none role playing slavery) was illegal between consenting adults. When did the government crawl back into our bedrooms? We just got them out of it a couple of decades ago.


    BTW - I already edited that post say to "between consenting adults".
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    back in the 50's government took tax payer money and used it to make anti-homosexual films to be shown in public schools........was it right to do that ...no.

    the government is not supposed to take people's money and use it against them.
    How is teaching about orientation using money against some one?
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you would have committed a crime to go to prison.

    can the government take your money from you and use it against you if you have broken no law?..
    That is a more narrow definition that I can live with.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I was unaware that homosexual relationships were illegal. I was also unaware that orgies were illegal. When did the government crawl back into our bedrooms? We just got them out of it a couple of decades ago.


    BTW - I already edited that post say to "between consenting adults".
    So schools should teach children that everything that isn't illegal in that particular area is OK. For example prostitution in certain areas, gambling, smoking obviously, etc.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Artevelde View Post
    So schools should teach children that everything that isn't illegal in that particular area is OK. For example prostitution in certain areas, gambling, smoking obviously, etc.
    Some things you mentioned are potential health hazards - like gambling and smoking - and should be considered in health classes. There's nothing wrong with prostitution except it's illegal in most places. All those should be covered as facts of society.
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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Some things you mentioned are potential health hazards - like gambling and smoking - and should be considered in health classes. There's nothing wrong with prostitution except it's illegal in most places.
    As I figured, you are really rather selective in what legal things schools should teach children are OK. Why should your selection prevail?

    Maybe schools should try to teach children the essential skills they need. That seems to be pretty much of a challenge as it is. Leave the education of morals up to their parents, family, friends, etc.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's just the way it is. Things evolve. You either evolve, or your left behind. Society changes. We wear mixed fabrics now, we don't stone women for small offenses, we ended slavery. And at each turn there were people fighting the change, they were just bred out over time as the system evolved. And here we have the same thing. We are growing and we are becoming more accepting of homosexuality as we learn that human is human. There are people fighting it now, but they'll be left behind and in a few decades at most people will look back on us now and wonder why there were ever people who rallied against homosexuals.

    Just the way of the world. It has nothing to do with religious freedom, the religions are free to express whatever they want. But religion will change as man changes, religion is a reflection of ourselves. And like churches in the days of ol' called for the death of heathens and even lit the fire themselves in some instances, religion will leave behind the barbaric and irrational practices as man and society change.
    Just the big one's. Sorry. Couldn't resist.

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    Re: Freedom of Religion vs the Mandate to Evolve [W 65]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    question: should a religious adult send his child to public school ,and the school teach that homosexual relationships are good, and nothing wrong with them.

    school is mandatory, and the adult is giving his tax money to support the school.
    I think the schools should remain neutral on such issues. They have enough to worry about with teaching academics. Our public school system has some SERIOUS issues. I've heard that the high school drop out rate is nearing 30%. I do believe that in depth sex education should happen in health class though.

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