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    Should the state recognize marriage at all?

    Would it be better to simply keep marriages, regardless of gender or number of spouses, purely a religious or otherwise private ceremony? Why or why not?

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    Re: Should the state recognize marriage at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by polisciguy View Post
    Would it be better to simply keep marriages, regardless of gender or number of spouses, purely a religious or otherwise private ceremony? Why or why not?
    I'm all for the state recognizing marriage - I'm opposed to the state rewarding marriage.
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    Re: Should the state recognize marriage at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by polisciguy View Post
    Would it be better to simply keep marriages, regardless of gender or number of spouses, purely a religious or otherwise private ceremony? Why or why not?
    There's no good reason to make it purely religious because religion doesn't own it. As for the state giving out marriage licenses, this helps keep the recognitions and benefits consistent as you move from one place to another.

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    Re: Should the state recognize marriage at all?

    Not at all. No religion as of now is going to marry a gay couple, this doesn't solve anything.
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    Re: Should the state recognize marriage at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by polisciguy View Post
    Would it be better to simply keep marriages, regardless of gender or number of spouses, purely a religious or otherwise private ceremony? Why or why not?


    Ideally perhaps, but when property or children are involved, and there is a divorce or a death requiring division, it is hard for the State NOT to get involved unless there is a contract spelling out who-gets-what and it goes uncontested.

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    Re: Should the state recognize marriage at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm all for the state recognizing marriage - I'm opposed to the state rewarding marriage.
    Interesting you bring that up. I'm opposed to state sanctioned benefits of marriage.

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    Re: Should the state recognize marriage at all?

    Yes. Couples in marriage are the foundation of society. Hence, the state should have a vested interest in being a part of that process. The process of marriage. Again, marriage has 2 parts:

    A) legal
    b) ceremonial.

    The legal part is the state part when you go and sign a piece of paper at the city hall or social office or what naught. There is nothing romantic or religious about it. It just informs the state that there is another group of people who are ready to be part of the building block of society. Gay or straight, as it is now in 13 states in the USA I think.
    The ceremonial part is the religious one. Also known as a wedding in Christianity, where you go at the church, say some vowes and put a ring on each others' finger. This is the romantic part also. The ceremonial part is also optional. All you really need is the legal part. The state part, to be married, by law.

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    Re: Should the state recognize marriage at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Ideally perhaps, but when property or children are involved, and there is a divorce or a death requiring division, it is hard for the State NOT to get involved unless there is a contract spelling out who-gets-what and it goes uncontested.
    I have noticed you can always be counted on for a well-rounded opinion, sir.

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    Re: Should the state recognize marriage at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Not at all. No religion as of now is going to marry a gay couple, this doesn't solve anything.
    Not all religions are against gay marriage, though interestingly enough the most conservative elements of religions "of the book" are consistently against it.

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    Re: Should the state recognize marriage at all?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Not all religions are against gay marriage, though interestingly enough the most conservative elements of religions "of the book" are consistently against it.
    i understand that, but most religions are. And most major ones are too.
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