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Which City is Next?

Which City is Next?

  • St. Louis, MO

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Oakland, CA

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • Memphis, TN

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Birningham, AL

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • Atlanta, GA

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Baltimore, MD

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • Stockton, CA

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • Cleveland, OH

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • None. Detroit is a one time incident

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • It'll be more than one next time

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .
I have no idea how the cities on the list were picked, heck, Stockton has already declared bankruptcy, why are they there? There are several major cities that are on the brink of going over the edge, Chicago, which just had their credit rating reduced because of unfunded liabilities, is certainly one. Los Angeles, San Francisco, Inglewood, Azusa and others in California are going right after them. People have to realize that these massive pension packages are deadly to most cities and to the nation at large. It's only going to snowball from here.
I chose the top ten most violent cities of 2012 according to Forbes. High crime is usually accompanied with economic failure
 
I didnt know we could insult other peoples religions on this forum. Oh, wait you are insulting Catholics. So it must be ok.:roll:

How was citing two very specific and true things the Church is involved in, 'insulting' to Catholics? Don't like what the church does, then quit the church...but don't claim that I'm insulting Catholics with my truth telling.
 
Well, I noticed the "lean" you identified with.

I was just pointing out my surprise that you would align yourself in your "lean" with the people you were describing in your post.

Um... the OP lists his lean as "conservative." So I still don't know what you're talking about, since that isn't my lean.

But even if that weren't the case, a person's lean has nothing to do with whether their posts are any good. My lean is my own, and I'm not responsible for what other people say.
 
How was citing two very specific and true things the Church is involved in, 'insulting' to Catholics? Don't like what the church does, then quit the church...but don't claim that I'm insulting Catholics with my truth telling.
Your version of the "truth" is a total fabrication. I will not "quit my church or religion" based on the actions of a few.
You want to hate the catholic church? Knock your little self out, but dont try BSing me about what you think is true.
 
Um... the OP lists his lean as "conservative." So I still don't know what you're talking about, since that isn't my lean.

But even if that weren't the case, a person's lean has nothing to do with whether their posts are any good. My lean is my own, and I'm not responsible for what other people say.

I understand.

When I read this in your post...

"This is exactly what I was thinking. "True patriots" reveling in the pain and suffering of their fellow countrymen, constructing ways to bend the narrative of what's really happening to suit their hackish political needs. Just enjoying and capitalizing upon the misery of these people. Getting their "comeuppance." Disgusting. Just disgusting. "​

...I recognized what group you were referencing. I was just surprised to read about your disgust with a group you appear to align yourself with.

Thats all.
 
Your version of the "truth" is a total fabrication. I will not "quit my church or religion" based on the actions of a few.
You want to hate the catholic church? Knock your little self out, but dont try BSing me about what you think is true.

So boys were not molested by priests and then higher up Church administrators did not protect them for decades? Really? That's a 'TOTAL FABRICATION'. That didn't happen? Wow..talk about denial. That's right, according to you, it was a very small percentage, so they get a pass and you get to use phrases like 'TOTAL FABRICATION' even though I can cite HUNDREDS (if not thousands) of examples of this happening.

I didn't tell you to quit your church or religion...I said, IF THE CHURCH act of covering for molesters for years bothers you, THEN quit the church. If it doesn't bother you, then stay - I DO NOT CARE. But you don't get to call me a liar for relaying VERIFIABLE FACTS.

If you claim my facts are fabrications,(and the church never covered up child molestations) please, let your 'LITTLE SELF' provide proof, because I sure can.
 
I wasn't aware anyone was doing that. Pretty sure that's in your head.
Pretty sure you weren't blasting Conservatives? Why don't you stop typing and breathe?

What I'm blasting is your cruelty and complete disinterest in actually helping, rather than laughing at a bunch of innocent people.
Who's laughing? I know I'm not crying, but who's laughing? I'm helping people understand that Democrats are destructive, not productive. A sledgehammer approach is the best way to make this point. You should be thanking me for throwing the truth in your faces instead of *****footing the problem.

Is that a conservative tenet?
Not by your understanding, it isn't.
 
Detroit has been ravaged with crime and corruption for decades. In a sense, it has received its comeuppance. So which city do you think will be next?


Could be any, but odds are it will be a big blue city in a big blue state. That is what killed Detroit.
 
So boys were not molested by priests and then higher up Church administrators did not protect them for decades? Really? That's a 'TOTAL FABRICATION'. That didn't happen? Wow..talk about denial. That's right, according to you, it was a very small percentage, so they get a pass and you get to use phrases like 'TOTAL FABRICATION' even though I can cite HUNDREDS (if not thousands) of examples of this happening.

I didn't tell you to quit your church or religion...I said, IF THE CHURCH act of covering for molesters for years bothers you, THEN quit the church. If it doesn't bother you, then stay - I DO NOT CARE. But you don't get to call me a liar for relaying VERIFIABLE FACTS.

If you claim my facts are fabrications,(and the church never covered up child molestations) please, let your 'LITTLE SELF' provide proof, because I sure can.

Yep, how many Catholics in the world? Around a billion. A few priests did bad things, some didnt pay for it.
WTF do you want done about it, except open mic night to bash catholics every chance you get.
And unless you are a cop and or an investigator all you can do is provide newspaper articles. So dont get all high and mighty.
 
Yep, how many Catholics in the world? Around a billion. A few priests did bad things, some didnt pay for it.
WTF do you want done about it, except open mic night to bash catholics every chance you get.
And unless you are a cop and or an investigator all you can do is provide newspaper articles. So dont get all high and mighty.

'A Few' - yeah right. Try again. This time without so much denial. this went on for decades.

I do not bash catholics every chance I get. Nice try again, but completely untrue which makes you a liar. (or at least someone that assumes too much based on ONE COMMENT posted on a website) so you can pidgeonhole me for making ONE commment, but the catholic church gets a pass from you because 'it was just a few of them)

By the way, a 'FEW' is about 3, maybe 4. Well, when you try 300 or 400, you might be a little closer to the truth (and that's just in recent times)

So you have to be a cop to provide evidience? really? what world do you live in again? Oh that's right, the land of denial. The newspapers never report any facts anyway, right?

Offereing proof to defend myself against your charges of calling me a liar is now classified as me getting 'high and mighty'. Again, really? I thought defending myself against people that call my FACTS 'FABRICATIONS' is completely justified and in no way, shape or form does it make me 'high and mighty'.
 
I understand.

When I read this in your post...
"This is exactly what I was thinking. "True patriots" reveling in the pain and suffering of their fellow countrymen, constructing ways to bend the narrative of what's really happening to suit their hackish political needs. Just enjoying and capitalizing upon the misery of these people. Getting their "comeuppance." Disgusting. Just disgusting. "​

...I recognized what group you were referencing. I was just surprised to read about your disgust with a group you appear to align yourself with.

Thats all.

What, fake "true patriots"? Yeah, I'm disgusted with them. Fake-anything disgusts me, especially when it feeds on the misery of other people. Although personally, I consider myself more aligned with general human welfare than any particular country.
 
'A Few' - yeah right. Try again. This time without so much denial. this went on for decades.

I do not bash catholics every chance I get. Nice try again, but completely untrue which makes you a liar. (or at least someone that assumes too much based on ONE COMMENT posted on a website) so you can pidgeonhole me for making ONE commment, but the catholic church gets a pass from you because 'it was just a few of them)

By the way, a 'FEW' is about 3, maybe 4. Well, when you try 300 or 400, you might be a little closer to the truth (and that's just in recent times)

So you have to be a cop to provide evidience? really? what world do you live in again? Oh that's right, the land of denial. The newspapers never report any facts anyway, right?

Offereing proof to defend myself against your charges of calling me a liar is now classified as me getting 'high and mighty'. Again, really? I thought defending myself against people that call my FACTS 'FABRICATIONS' is completely justified and in no way, shape or form does it make me 'high and mighty'.
You spit and sweat when you get that riled up? Hate that catholics all you want, just remember, we dont care.
 
Pretty sure you weren't blasting Conservatives? Why don't you stop typing and breathe?

No, I blasted you pretty specifically. I even quoted you.

Who's laughing? I know I'm not crying, but who's laughing? I'm helping people understand that Democrats are destructive, not productive. A sledgehammer approach is the best way to make this point. You should be thanking me for throwing the truth in your faces instead of *****footing the problem.

I don't believe you for a second. Your OP was practically reveling in it.

Not by your understanding, it isn't.

Then you've answered your own question.
 
You spit and sweat when you get that riled up? Hate that catholics all you want, just remember, we dont care.

Amazing how none of my post gets addressed. Spit and sweat? Riled up? what are you talking about?
Never said I hate Catholics (because I don't) - you assumed I did and you are wrong. (like most of your post).
 
Here's a list I found on google for top large cities vulnerable to bankruptcy.
Is the USA really in that bad of a shape?


Washington, DC

Camden, NJ

Cincinnati, OH

San Diego, CA

San Jose, CA

San Francisoco, CA

Los Angeles, CA

Baltimore, MD

Honolulu, HI

New York City, NY

Chicago, IL
 
Amazing how none of my post gets addressed. Spit and sweat? Riled up? what are you talking about?
Never said I hate Catholics (because I don't) - you assumed I did and you are wrong. (like most of your post).
You are the one that hi jacked the thread. So too bad.
 
Here's a list I found on google for top large cities vulnerable to bankruptcy.
Is the USA really in that bad of a shape?


Washington, DC

Camden, NJ

Cincinnati, OH

San Diego, CA

San Jose, CA

San Francisoco, CA

Los Angeles, CA

Baltimore, MD

Honolulu, HI

New York City, NY

Chicago, IL
Yes it is.
 
Gotta be Baltimore. My GPS took me through Baltimore on my way from DC to NYC because I hit 'avoid toll roads'. I have never seen a more poor, run-down, third world city in the western world. That city is already broken, declaring it bankrupt will just be a matter of semantics.

That's where I grew up, which is why I rarely accept excuses for failures. I was the minority, staying near the house to be safe and putting in extra study time to make sure my adult life wouldn't be in that type of area full of hoodlums.
 
What, fake "true patriots"? Yeah, I'm disgusted with them. Fake-anything disgusts me, especially when it feeds on the misery of other people. Although personally, I consider myself more aligned with general human welfare than any particular country.

Well, fake "true partiots" as well as all the other attributes you posted. Progressives certainly are that and more.
 
It's creepy how supposedly patriotic people seem to revel in the country's struggles. Especially with the undercurrent of "See? I told you it was wrong to be anything besides a white, middle class, heterosexual, rural Christian, male, and this is what you get for thinking you're not inferior." It also involves selectively ignoring the many many problems experienced by such people and how the dreaded city people (70-80% of Americans) get along just fine.

So yeah, smug sadistic bigotry doesn't help anyone, and it runs really contrary to the stated ideals of the people doing it.

This is exactly what I was thinking. "True patriots" reveling in the pain and suffering of their fellow countrymen, constructing ways to bend the narrative of what's really happening to suit their hackish political needs. Just enjoying and capitalizing upon the misery of these people. Getting their "comeuppance." Disgusting. Just disgusting.

Wow. How the hell did ya'll get that from the OP? That is so far out in left field that it is from the left field of a stadium three cities over.
 
I have no clue which city will be next. But probably one with high taxes, without Right to Work and who restrict their citizens from defending themselves. Inner city crime in the liberal welfare areas exist in most cities above a certain size, I don't think it is a factor in whether a city fails or not.
 
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