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Thread: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

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    re: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

    I don't think it offensive. I find Sharpton and Jackson offensive, I find gangsta rap offensive, I find almost all players on MSNBC offensive, I find Sean Hannity offensive, I would like to kick Martin Bashir in the nuts but he probably doesn't have them so I would kick Rachel Maddow in the nuts, she probably has them.

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    re: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

    I support free speech but that cartoon comes real close to a death threat.

    Do I find it offensive aside from the violent imagery? I'm not sure. I tend to give satire a pass.

    However, what I do find offensive are articles I read by ideological hacks that seem to go out of their way to ridicule urban street jargon. I was reading one such article yesterday. The writer of the article was reporting on one of the national Justice for Trayvon rallies. In the article he extensively quoted verbatim one of the speeches made where the speaker was using urban slang. It was obvious he was trying to convey the idea that the leaders of these Justice of Trayvon Rallies were not only of a position that he did not support but they were also as stupid as hell and could not articulately construct sentences with proper grammar while hiding behind a cloak of innocence since "all he did was quote what they said." Unless he'd taken the time to write one line explaining many in the audience were inner-city residents and the speaker spoke to them in the common lingo of the culture to better identify with them, quoting urban street slang in the body of an otherwise serious news article is in my humble opinion a deliberate attempt to make black people look ignorant. Nevertheless unlike many political correctness hacks, I do not support any type of sanctions against the writer. Market forces will take care of it all.

    Right now I'm in an in person debate with a buddy of mine who works with our local GOP. I'm giving him FREE consulting on what the GOP culture does with regularity that drives away minority voters and he refuses to listen. Its a classic case of don't confuse me with the facts, I've already made up my mind. Meanwhile the GOP is spending bank on minority voter outreach. It must be nice to be rich. Bottom line, the GOP cannot hope to win over black voters until they stop insulting them and instead start honoring them, and not just what comes out of Reince Priebus' mouth but throughout the GOP culture. My free advice to the GOP has just ended. People tend to not value things that don't cost them anything.
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    re: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I support free speech but that cartoon comes real close to a death threat.
    Unlike the thousands of death threats that have been send Zimmermans way? I guess those are ok though?

    the GOP cannot hope to win over black voters until they stop insulting them and instead start honoring them, and not just what comes out of Reince Priebus' mouth but throughout the GOP culture. My free advice to the GOP has just ended. People tend to not value things that don't cost them anything.
    What a mass confusion of thought. So the GOP should do as the DNC does, and just promise free stuff in order to keep minorities where they are, in the same conditions they are in? Perhaps one day the majority of minorities will come to realize all the DNC 'help' has done them NO good, and will quit voting for those that treat them like they are retards that need the government to get by in life.
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    re: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Now see, that's what I got out of that. What lenses are you peering through?
    History...?

    I mean...let's deconstruct it.

    You have symbols of a real racist past....like people still alive today had to deal with. A domestic terror group that targeted blacks. Lynchings which was the method for vigilante justice against blacks (interesting enough Zimmerman was a wannabe cop/vigilante). You take those symbols of real oppression and turn it on it's head. Allude to the oppressed becoming the oppressors? As if largely peaceful protests and calls to actions are in anyway the same as the Jim Crow South and the Klu Klux Klan?

    Let's go further. The guy yelling about not letting an all white jury let off Zimmerman (in broken "ebonics" for true racist effect). The actual history was that the KKK would string up a black guy and an all white jury would find them not guilty in the face of insurmountable evidence. So this makes light of a real historical fact and turns it on it's head. It completely ignores the fact that blacks never received justice. Another slap in the face because blacks wouldn't receive justice and in this case they feel as if they didn't receive justice.

    Oh...lets not forget that the first black president and the NAACP which was actually targeted by the KKK and acted to eliminate it from the south are now Klan members.

    Honestly...this is the most racist piece of filth in the world. I'm surprised it's not from Stormfront or some equivalent site. I'm not as surprised that conservatives either are unaware of the history and all the intentional offending parts of this cartoon or just don't care and are racist.

    Edit: I just want to point out...the only reason I responded to your post is that I'm not surprised by the people on here not saying it's offensive but I'm shocked YOU would find a purposely offensive cartoon not offensive.
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    re: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Unlike the thousands of death threats that have been send Zimmermans way? I guess those are ok though?
    ???? That's what I was saying. It looked like a death threat against Zimmerman. Who else could it have been?

    LOL. I think we can get so enveloped in our team politics, we see everything through that filter and it alters reality. I get the fact that the creator of this cartoon seemed to side with Zimmerman but I don't like the violent imagery used against Zimmerman despite the cartoon being in support of him.

    What a mass confusion of thought. So the GOP should do as the DNC does, and just promise free stuff in order to keep minorities where they are, in the same conditions they are in?
    I never said that. Now I'm confused. Where did I say anything about promising free stuff to anybody? Wow.
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    re: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    History...?

    I mean...let's deconstruct it.

    You have symbols of a real racist past....like people still alive today had to deal with. A domestic terror group that targeted blacks. Lynchings which was the method for vigilante justice against blacks (interesting enough Zimmerman was a wannabe cop/vigilante). You take those symbols of real oppression and turn it on it's head. Allude to the oppressed becoming the oppressors? As if largely peaceful protests and calls to actions are in anyway the same as the Jim Crow South and the Klu Klux Klan?

    Let's go further. The guy yelling about not letting an all white jury let off Zimmerman (in broken "ebonics" for true racist effect). The actual history was that the KKK would string up a black guy and an all white jury would find them not guilty in the face of insurmountable evidence. So this makes light of a real historical fact and turns it on it's head. It completely ignores the fact that blacks never received justice. Another slap in the face because blacks wouldn't receive justice and in this case they feel as if they didn't receive justice.

    Oh...lets not forget that the first black president and the NAACP which was actually targeted by the KKK and acted to eliminate it from the south are now Klan members.

    Honestly...this is the most racist piece of filth in the world. I'm surprised it's not from Stormfront or some equivalent site. I'm not as surprised that conservatives either are unaware of the history and all the intentional offending parts of this cartoon or just don't care and are racist.
    If people (in this case, the particular people mentioned in the cartoon) lack the capacity to see that their behavior is in every way identical to those hooded Klansmen of days gone by, then perhaps a good swift kick to the balls is what is required for them to 'see' it.

    Zimmerman...a hispanic male, was arrested, tried, and exonerated. The system was engaged and worked (and lets be honest...he should NEVER have been arrested or tried...it was all a mejican donkey show with the justice system being the chiquita bent over a table). After the trial there are a WHOLE LOT of people out there clamoring for street justice, a little kill whitey action (ummmm...NOT a white guy, but lets not worry about facts), a little robbery and looting because how better to show you are displeased with the US Justice system than by stealing a TV?).

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    re: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I thought ramen's post was a spot on description of the cartoons message. It *is* comparing calls for a *trial* to the lynchings of the KKK.
    You must have missed the part where the cartoon is depicting the responses AFTER the trial...

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    re: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You must have missed the part where the cartoon is depicting the responses AFTER the trial...
    In all fairness I believe it is referencing the possible federal action
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    re: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    History...?

    I mean...let's deconstruct it.

    You have symbols of a real racist past....like people still alive today had to deal with. A domestic terror group that targeted blacks. Lynchings which was the method for vigilante justice against blacks (interesting enough Zimmerman was a wannabe cop/vigilante). You take those symbols of real oppression and turn it on it's head. Allude to the oppressed becoming the oppressors? As if largely peaceful protests and calls to actions are in anyway the same as the Jim Crow South and the Klu Klux Klan?

    Let's go further. The guy yelling about not letting an all white jury let off Zimmerman (in broken "ebonics" for true racist effect). The actual history was that the KKK would string up a black guy and an all white jury would find them not guilty in the face of insurmountable evidence. So this makes light of a real historical fact and turns it on it's head. It completely ignores the fact that blacks never received justice. Another slap in the face because blacks wouldn't receive justice and in this case they feel as if they didn't receive justice.

    Oh...lets not forget that the first black president and the NAACP which was actually targeted by the KKK and acted to eliminate it from the south are now Klan members.

    Honestly...this is the most racist piece of filth in the world. I'm surprised it's not from Stormfront or some equivalent site. I'm not as surprised that conservatives either are unaware of the history and all the intentional offending parts of this cartoon or just don't care and are racist.

    Edit: I just want to point out...the only reason I responded to your post is that I'm not surprised by the people on here not saying it's offensive but I'm shocked YOU would find a purposely offensive cartoon not offensive.
    That you do not see the similarities just shows how painted in a corner you are, and how wide your blinders are. Be it an actual lynching, or one done in the media, lives are destroyed.
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    re: Do you think this is offensive? [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If people (in this case, the particular people mentioned in the cartoon) lack the capacity to see that their behavior is in every way identical to those hooded Klansmen of days gone by, then perhaps a good swift kick to the balls is what is required for them to 'see' it.
    Please...tell me how largely peaceful public demonstrations are the equivalent to a domestic terrorist group and lynchings. I'd like to hear from all the whites that can tell me they feel the same as a black in the Jim Crow South that lived under the terror of the KKK, Lynch mobs, and a "jury of your peers" meant not guilty if a white killed a black.

    Zimmerman...a hispanic male, was arrested, tried, and exonerated. The system was engaged and worked (and lets be honest...he should NEVER have been arrested or tried...it was all a mejican donkey show with the justice system being the chiquita bent over a table). After the trial there are a WHOLE LOT of people out there clamoring for street justice, a little kill whitey action (ummmm...NOT a white guy, but lets not worry about facts), a little robbery and looting because how better to show you are displeased with the US Justice system than by stealing a TV?).
    He should of been arrested and tried.....Unless Martin was beating down his door to get into his house or also armed if you kill an unarmed person on a public street you should be tried...I know...maybe I'm the crazy one!

    "A whole lot of people"...sure...based on the isolated yellings relooped on Fox News. How many actual retaliation killings have taken place again?
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