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Thread: Obama's Zimmerman speech

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    He did help spark anything, you have your head in the sand. These issues were already there and acknowledging them was his responsibility, it was indeed his business.
    He didn't help spark the debate last year when he said if he had a son he would look like Trayvon? Please....
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    ... I think the chief executive of the United States is endowed with the right to comment on the nation's cultural and social issues at his leisure and any terms he likes.
    He added fuel to the fire. That is not the job of a responsible President. However, Obama is irresponsible in every way, it goes with his character.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    The verdict was handed down, and the entire process was acknowledged by Obama as legitimate. Not sure what your actual complaint is.
    My actual complaint is that he should not be commenting on the trial before or after the verdict (he did both). Not to mention he did not acknowledge the process as legitimate. He said, "a jury has spoken", not "the jury has spoken" (which is the real expression). He said it the way he did because he directed the DOJ to immediately look into filing civil rights charges.

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Again, not everyone shares your view on the case. I would not venture to say that racism was a component, but an argument could be made that race played a factor, however small. Addressing the concerns of his consituents from a credible platform and in a responsible manner should considerably less controversial.
    Once again I have to debunk the same ignorance over and over again. The FBI investigated this, the DA investigated this, they both wanted to add hate crime charges, very much - and were unable to because even the folks trying to convict Zimmerman agree this wasn't about race. Epic fail on the part of the POTUS.

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Why exactly would anyone feel "betrayed" by his remarks? Are you sure we're referring to the same speech?
    Yes, and that you don't understand how the chief executive commenting on an active case and then making mewling sounds when the case doesn't go his way is betrayal of his oath and his office - well that's another sign of the slide of our country into the dumpster.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    He added fuel to the fire. That is not the job of a responsible President. However, Obama is irresponsible in every way, it goes with his character.
    If you mean the right reacted against him, that is because the right is economically and socially organized to react against every word that proceeds from his mouth and every little twitch of his finger. Bloggers, news outlets, and radio personalities make their living off of it. It's nothing anyone else needs to make note of.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    If you mean the right reacted against him, that is because the right is economically and socially organized to react against every word that proceeds from his mouth and every little twitch of his finger. It's nothing anyone else needs to make note of.
    You don't think he added fuel to the fire? Wake up man.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You don't think he added fuel to the fire? Wake up man.
    Think you need to turn the "inner eye inward" on that one.

    Your actions have to add fuel to the fire when people make their livings off of turning every single aspect of your existence into some sort of fire.

    More importantly: let those who are burning, burn.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    He didn't help spark the debate last year when he said if he had a son he would look like Trayvon? Please....
    You are a very difficult person to have these kind of conversations with. For me, you come across as so married to your opinions and they seem to be fueled by so much rage that it honestly leaves the impression of civil discourse being utterly impossible. You appear to be an intelligent and thoughtful man who is well informed and I would like an opportunity to possibly, really come to understand the conservative perspective a little better through your posts. Do you think you could tone it down a little?

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