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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It is totally irrational to expect anyone to simply accept being pinned to the ground and continuously beaten by another while they are armed and decide not use their gun. I do not care what color your skin is, self defense should be universally understandable. It is way out in loony land to even attempt to try to excuse the beating inflicted upon Zimmerman on some "history" of white/hispanics having tormented Martin.

    How many more years must all non-blacks be considered racists and therefore threats to blacks?

    It is considered rational (normal?) for blacks to fear whites (even white/hispanics), the logical "justification" used for Martin attacking, a suspected "creepy ass cracka", Zimmerman, yet whites are never justified to react defensively in the presense of a black person - that is defined as pure racism or "profiling".
    Right, it is not Obama's job to tell us how black people think, it is his job to CHANGE the way they think.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So Obama is NOT the first black president?
    Hmmmm...technically...No...and yes...and no...and yes???

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    I think the reactions from the right wing are obscenely more divisive and angry than anything the president said in that impromptu address. The way they're frothing at the mouth, you'd think Obama said "Kill Whitey!!".

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by ToastyOats View Post
    I think the reactions from the right wing are obscenely more divisive and angry than anything the president said in that impromptu address. The way they're frothing at the mouth, you'd think Obama said "Kill Whitey!!".
    No he just said whitey is trying to kill you.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    No he just said whitey is trying to kill you.
    No, he didn't.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    There needs to be another option. This poll is doing the same exact thing the poster is claiming Obama is doing. It is polarizing people to race vs race. If you hate the race excuse stop bringing it up.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama's job should be to tone the race issue down not ramp it up.
    He only rampped it up to people like you who actually think the President had no right to comment on the issue. It's a ridiculous position.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    On the actual post though, Obama was simply addressing what the public uproar was about. He is always attacked about avoiding the problems, now ya'll are attacking him for taking the problem head on? So confusing.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Right, it is not Obama's job to tell us how black people think, it is his job to CHANGE the way they think.
    That could equally be said for Zimmerman. Why the **** did he not identify himself as neighborhood watch or try to explain why he had an interest in the actions/presense of Martin? After the situation turned into a serious fight, I, as did the jury, had to side with Zimmerman's decision to use deadly force, yet Zimmerman too had ample opporunity, IMHO, to at least try to reason with or explain himself (and his actions) to Martin.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You have to read the speech in total to understand what he was doing, taking lines out of context is not the real picture. IMO Maggie you are wrong here and need to bow to my age and wisdom and ummm gender.
    That is one cheap way to get a Like, Mr. Sawyer.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It is totally irrational to expect anyone to simply accept being pinned to the ground and continuously beaten by another while they are armed and decide not use their gun. I do not care what color your skin is, self defense (self preservation?) should be universally understandable. It is way out in loony land to even attempt to try to excuse the beating inflicted upon Zimmerman on some "history" of white/hispanics having tormented Martin.

    How many more years must all non-blacks be considered racists and therefore threats to blacks?

    It is considered rational (normal?) for blacks to fear whites (even white/hispanics), the logical "justification" used for Martin attacking, a suspected "creepy ass cracka", Zimmerman, yet whites are never justified to react defensively in the presense of a black person - that is defined as pure racism or "profiling".
    I don't actually disagree with a lot of what you've said . . . but I still think Obama's speech was just fine. I think it was an attempt to further calm the waters, and I think it did that.
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