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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    The uproar over the trial HAS been about race, that is what inspired the speach
    Obviously, I was reacting to a post that tried to say it wasn't about the trial.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The lazy exploitation was done by Obama. This case was not about race and the shooter wasn't even white.
    Not white? Uh...his dad is white - Non Hispanic and his mom...Peruvian, which I think is considered by the U.S. Government to be Hispanic/Latino, not to be confused with Latino Americans. And if you get a passport you'll see "White - Non-Hispanic" And "White - Hispanic".

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    The uproar over the trial HAS been about race, that is what inspired the speach
    Obviously, I was reacting to a post that tried to say it wasn't about the trial.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Not white? Uh...his dad is white - Non Hispanic and his mom...Peruvian, which I think is considered by the U.S. Government to be Hispanic/Latino, not to be confused with Latino Americans. And if you get a passport you'll see "White - Non-Hispanic" And "White - Hispanic".

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    So Obama is NOT the first black president?

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    His remarks were neither divisive nor inflamatory, and appropriate given the circumstances and what Obama felt to be the valid concerns of his constituents. Overall a good, not great speech (was it even?) and certainly not malicious as some have suggested.
    There's not a goddamn thing appropriate about his comments, nothing.......nothing at all. He had no business then nor now for getting involved in that case. And he knew it too, he's a race baiter.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The trial was not even about race, it wasn't even an issue so how can you defend Obama playing the race card?
    Obama's most devoted followers have been convinced that a hispanic guy who might have exercised poor judgment and then shot a black youth who was probably a minor league thug trying to graduate to full fledged mope is more important and a good distraction to avoid dealing with the fact that every day someone who looks like Travon Martin and is often less culpable-is shot down by another guy who looks like Travon Martin



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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Don't have to, but it's not exactly a incomprehensible tale. If you feel you can more accurately surmise what Obama experienced in his own life though, by all means.
    HE can't even accurately surmise his own life.
    He thinks that his parents first met in Selma Al, three years after he was born.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    There's not a goddamn thing appropriate about his comments, nothing.......nothing at all. He had no business then nor now for getting involved in that case. And he knew it too, he's a race baiter.
    Jesus, Mary & Joseph. A race baiter. Really. I don't know what to think about people who feel so damned strongly negative about what the president said. I really don't.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You can expect me to be honest about my thoughts and feelings. The fact that you find what I printed out here to be cherry-picking tells me that you have an opinion you're never going to change. And it's one based on emotion, not clear-headed thinking.

    You're SO entitled to think what you will. But there are more level-headed thinkers in this country than Sawyer who have no problem at all with what he said; understand why he chose to say it; and learned a little something in the process.



    The only people he "ramped up" are people like you. The people he was speaking to undoubtedly felt "heard" -- and that's what he was trying to do.

    In my opinion, Sawyer, you're wrong here. *shrug* It's unusual that I'd think that about your posts...
    You have to read the speech in total to understand what he was doing, taking lines out of context is not the real picture. IMO Maggie you are wrong here and need to bow to my age and wisdom and ummm gender.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There was plenty in there for "the rest of us."

    In fact, I think he did an excellent job of explaining to "the rest of us" why the black community think the way they think about this trial.

    Weren't you listening??
    It is totally irrational to expect anyone to simply accept being pinned to the ground and continuously beaten by another while they are armed and decide not use their gun. I do not care what color your skin is, self defense (self preservation?) should be universally understandable. It is way out in loony land to even attempt to try to excuse the beating inflicted upon Zimmerman on some "history" of white/hispanics having tormented Martin.

    How many more years must all non-blacks be considered racists and therefore threats to blacks?

    It is considered rational (normal?) for blacks to fear whites (even white/hispanics), the logical "justification" used for Martin attacking, a suspected "creepy ass cracka", Zimmerman, yet whites are never justified to react defensively in the presense of a black person - that is defined as pure racism or "profiling".
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