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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Right, Obama made a random speech about racial profiling, it had nothing whatsoever to do with the Zimmerman trial.
    It most certainly did. Did you actually read or listen to his talk?

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    It was terrible, and he needs to stay out of it!
    Yeah?...he's just the president for Gods sake and this is just a situation that has inspired marches across the country, WTH

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The trial was not even about race, it wasn't even an issue so how can you defend Obama playing the race card?
    The uproar over the trial HAS been about race, that is what inspired the speach

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    And apparently you missed this as well:



    And perhaps this:



    And perhaps this:
    You have to admit, saying reasonable doubt is relevant in a case such as this is a strange thing for a lawyer to say, like this is some special quirk applicable to this case only. Reasonable doubt is relevant in all criminal cases.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    And apparently you missed this as well:



    And perhaps this:



    And perhaps this:
    Cherry picking a few lines out of context is something I don't expect from you. The speech in total was about blacks being profiled and that was not what this case was about, it was about a man defending himself from a brutal attack.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    IMO Obama went out of his way to keep race the central issue when he gave his Zimmerman speech. His statement that all black men have suffered this abuse and it could have been him was yet another wedge being driven by our president to divide this country. He focused on a black kid being shot by a "white Latino" as the media calls Zim instead of the black kid getting killed by another black kid every day in Chicago. This is the worst most divisive president we have ever had bar none and this is the worst speech given by a president bar none.

    He must be home tuning up his new speech about that black on black shooting where the woman was being intimidated by her estranged husband and shot into the wall to scare him. Lessee now, she got 21 years for aggravated assault. What am I missing here? Her husband bigger, stronger and intimidating and in Florida and the ambiguity is in Technicolor.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You have to admit, saying reasonable doubt is relevant in a case such as this is a strange thing for a lawyer to say, like this is some special quirk applicable to this case only. Reasonable doubt is relevant in all criminal cases.
    It is a strange thing -- he could have said it in a better way -- but he was, quite obviously, parsing his words. I don't fault him for that. It's one of the things that wasn't "perfect".
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    The uproar over the trial HAS been about race, that is what inspired the speach
    Obama's job should be to tone the race issue down not ramp it up.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Cherry picking a few lines out of context is something I don't expect from you. The speech in total was about blacks being profiled and that was not what this case was about, it was about a man defending himself from a brutal attack.
    You can expect me to be honest about my thoughts and feelings. The fact that you find what I printed out here to be cherry-picking tells me that you have an opinion you're never going to change. And it's one based on emotion, not clear-headed thinking.

    You're SO entitled to think what you will. But there are more level-headed thinkers in this country than Sawyer who have no problem at all with what he said; understand why he chose to say it; and learned a little something in the process.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama's job should be to tone the race issue down not ramp it up.
    The only people he "ramped up" are people like you. The people he was speaking to undoubtedly felt "heard" -- and that's what he was trying to do.

    In my opinion, Sawyer, you're wrong here. *shrug* It's unusual that I'd think that about your posts...
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