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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It fell somewhere between your two retarded options.
    So go ahead and give your honest opinion.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    IMO Obama went out of his way to keep race the central issue when he gave his Zimmerman speech. His statement that all black men have suffered this abuse and it could have been him was yet another wedge being driven by our president to divide this country. He focused on a black kid being shot by a "white Latino" as the media calls Zim instead of the black kid getting killed by another black kid every day in Chicago. This is the worst most divisive president we have ever had bar none and this is the worst speech given by a president bar none.
    Personally, I think those that don't like Obama generally don't like the speech he gave. Those that like him think it was just fine.

    Me? I don't like Obama. But.

    I didn't mind his speech. I think he was talking to 15% of our population . . . many of whom feel downtrodden and betrayed, dare I say "yet again," by a justice system many of them sincerely believe failed them. There can be no doubt about a number of things:

    Driving While Black is real.
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    I don't think he was rabble-rousing. I think he was speaking to a constituency that was and is upset. That could or could not escalate criminal activity because they're upset. He just wanted to let them know he heard them.

    I had no problem with it at all. Was it perfect? WTF is?

    Edit: As for your poll, I didn't vote. Neither option reflected my opinion.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Personally, I think those that don't like Obama generally don't like the speech he gave. Those that like him think it was just fine.

    Me? I don't like Obama. But.

    I didn't mind his speech. I think he was talking to 15% of our population . . . many of whom feel downtrodden and betrayed, dared I say "yet again," by a justice system many of them sincerely believe failed them. There can be no doubt about a number of things:

    Driving While Black is real.
    Walking While Black is real.
    Being scrutinized in department stores is real.
    Hearing car doors suddenly lock at stop lights is real.
    Not getting on elevators is real.

    I don't think he was rabble-rousing. I think he was speaking to a constituency that was and is upset. That could or could not escalate criminal activity because they're upset. He just wanted to let them know he heard them.

    I had no problem with it at all. Was it perfect? WTF is?
    BINGO Maggie! It is his job to talk to all of us not just blacks.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    IMO Obama went out of his way to keep race the central issue when he gave his Zimmerman speech. His statement that all black men have suffered this abuse and it could have been him was yet another wedge being driven by our president to divide this country. He focused on a black kid being shot by a "white Latino" as the media calls Zim instead of the black kid getting killed by another black kid every day in Chicago. This is the worst most divisive president we have ever had bar none and this is the worst speech given by a president bar none.
    What did he say about Zimmerman's trial?

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    BINGO Maggie! It is his job to talk to all of us not just blacks.
    There was plenty in there for "the rest of us."

    In fact, I think he did an excellent job of explaining to "the rest of us" why the black community think the way they think about this trial.

    Weren't you listening??
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    There was plenty in there for "the rest of us."

    In fact, I think he did an excellent job of explaining to "the rest of us" why the black community think the way they think about this trial.

    Weren't you listening??
    Yes I was listening. I was listening to Obama talk about racial profiling in a case that had nothing to do with racial profiling. I was listening to Obama divide this country further and make it sound like whites killing blacks was a huge problem when in reality black on black violence is the huge problem, not to mention that Zimmerman is no more white than Obama himself is.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What did he say about Zimmerman's trial?
    Right, Obama made a random speech about racial profiling, it had nothing whatsoever to do with the Zimmerman trial.

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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Right, Obama made a random speech about racial profiling, it had nothing whatsoever to do with the Zimmerman trial.
    The judge conducted the trial in a professional manner. The prosecution and the defense made their arguments. The juries were properly instructed that in a -- in a case such as this, reasonable doubt was relevant, and they rendered a verdict. And once the jury’s spoken, that’s how our system works.
    And apparently you missed this as well:

    Now, this isn’t to say that the African-American community is naive about the fact that African-American young men are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system, that they are disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence. It’s not to make excuses for that fact, although black folks do interpret the reasons for that in a historical context.
    And perhaps this:

    I think the African-American community is also not naive in understanding that statistically somebody like Trayvon Martin was probably statistically more likely to be shot by a peer than he was by somebody else.
    And perhaps this:

    I know that Eric Holder is reviewing what happened down there, but I think it’s important for people to have some clear expectations here. Traditionally, these are issues of state and local government -- the criminal code. And law enforcement has traditionally done it at the state and local levels, not at the federal levels.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well, in fairness, I haven't heard too many opinions on the speech that are middle of the road. It seems like most people either really loved or really hated it.
    That you only hear the lunatic fringe does not make only two stupid options better.
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    Re: Obama's Zimmerman speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    IMO Obama went out of his way to keep race the central issue when he gave his Zimmerman speech. His statement that all black men have suffered this abuse and it could have been him was yet another wedge being driven by our president to divide this country. He focused on a black kid being shot by a "white Latino" as the media calls Zim instead of the black kid getting killed by another black kid every day in Chicago. This is the worst most divisive president we have ever had bar none and this is the worst speech given by a president bar none.
    I think your post is far more divisive then Obama's speech

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