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    Has the election of a black POTUS led to more, no or less racsim in America?

    Back in 2008 a popular political pundit cautioned that if Barack Obama were to be elected President, unlike claims it would lead to a less racially divided country, it would in fact lead to more racism.

    At the time, I disagreed. I felt if Obama were to be elected, people with racial prejudices against blacks would see that blacks aren't that different than anyone else, are capable of leadership and posses the same intellectual faculties as anyone else all leading to a more harmonious racially diverse America less incumbered by fears, stereotypes and discrimination.

    However, after hearing the pundit's assertions, I began to accept the idea that there was an outside chance we could see more racism but not because it didn't exist prior to the election of a black President but rather deep racist attitudes already existed but were suppressed and the election of a black President might bring those suppressed racist attitudes to the surface. At the time I thought even that would be a good thing since thinking any racist attitudes would be limited to speech, if its out in the open, we can discuss it, deal with it and help foster better understanding.

    With the benefit of hindsight, what do you think? I for one, had no idea just how racist some of the people I considered friends and political allies actually are.
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    Re: Has the election of a black POTUS led to more, no or less racsim in America?

    Obama used RACE... but nothing happened.
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    Re: Has the election of a black POTUS led to more, no or less racsim in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Back in 2008 a popular political pundit cautioned that if Barack Obama were to be elected President, unlike claims it would lead to a less racially divided country, it would in fact lead to more racism.

    At the time, I disagreed. I felt if Obama were to be elected, people with racial prejudices against blacks would see that blacks aren't that different than anyone else, are capable of leadership and posses the same intellectual faculties as anyone else all leading to a more harmonious racially diverse America less incumbered by fears, stereotypes and discrimination.

    However, after hearing the pundit's assertions, I began to accept the idea that there was an outside chance we could see more racism but not because it didn't exist prior to the election of a black President but rather deep racist attitudes already existed but were suppressed and the election of a black President might bring those suppressed racist attitudes to the surface. At the time I thought even that would be a good thing since thinking any racist attitudes would be limited to speech, if its out in the open, we can discuss it, deal with it and help foster better understanding.

    With the benefit of hindsight, what do you think? I for one, had no idea just how racist some of the people I considered friends and political allies actually are.
    I agree and although people claim there is no increase in racism with a black president that is simply not true. What other president was asked to show his birth certificate. And comments like Obama is unamerican, a communist, a dictator etc. are all about who he really is, BLACK. I think people who are true racists were appalled that a black man could become president. They think they are better because they are white.
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    Re: Has the election of a black POTUS led to more, no or less racsim in America?

    I have to say I have become more racist since the election of Obama. I think most people have and I don't think it will ever change. As long as we look and act different than other people there will be an element of racism, by everyone.

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    Re: Has the election of a black POTUS led to more, no or less racsim in America?

    One thing is people getting sick of the race card being played even when top government officials are black. In particular, these officials like Obama and Holder are adding fuel to the fire with BS they say.
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    Re: Has the election of a black POTUS led to more, no or less racsim in America?

    I think the question in the poll is incorrect, I think Obama's race
    has little to do with his encouraging racial divide.
    It is not because he is black, but because he is Obama.

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    Re: Has the election of a black POTUS led to more, no or less racsim in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Back in 2008 a popular political pundit cautioned that if Barack Obama were to be elected President, unlike claims it would lead to a less racially divided country, it would in fact lead to more racism.

    At the time, I disagreed. I felt if Obama were to be elected, people with racial prejudices against blacks would see that blacks aren't that different than anyone else, are capable of leadership and posses the same intellectual faculties as anyone else all leading to a more harmonious racially diverse America less incumbered by fears, stereotypes and discrimination.

    However, after hearing the pundit's assertions, I began to accept the idea that there was an outside chance we could see more racism but not because it didn't exist prior to the election of a black President but rather deep racist attitudes already existed but were suppressed and the election of a black President might bring those suppressed racist attitudes to the surface. At the time I thought even that would be a good thing since thinking any racist attitudes would be limited to speech, if its out in the open, we can discuss it, deal with it and help foster better understanding.

    With the benefit of hindsight, what do you think? I for one, had no idea just how racist some of the people I considered friends and political allies actually are.



    We have always had racists all over this planet,we still have them, and, unfortunately, that racism is not going to disappear tomorrow.

    Most of the people on this planet are racists, some are more racist, some are less racist.




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    Re: Has the election of a black POTUS led to more, no or less racsim in America?

    I think having a black president has caused the far right wingers to become more verbal about it, but it was always there.
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    Re: Has the election of a black POTUS led to more, no or less racsim in America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Back in 2008 a popular political pundit cautioned that if Barack Obama were to be elected President, unlike claims it would lead to a less racially divided country, it would in fact lead to more racism.

    At the time, I disagreed. I felt if Obama were to be elected, people with racial prejudices against blacks would see that blacks aren't that different than anyone else, are capable of leadership and posses the same intellectual faculties as anyone else all leading to a more harmonious racially diverse America less incumbered by fears, stereotypes and discrimination.

    However, after hearing the pundit's assertions, I began to accept the idea that there was an outside chance we could see more racism but not because it didn't exist prior to the election of a black President but rather deep racist attitudes already existed but were suppressed and the election of a black President might bring those suppressed racist attitudes to the surface. At the time I thought even that would be a good thing since thinking any racist attitudes would be limited to speech, if its out in the open, we can discuss it, deal with it and help foster better understanding.

    With the benefit of hindsight, what do you think? I for one, had no idea just how racist some of the people I considered friends and political allies actually are.
    Well, I think what's happened is that people are pointing to us having a black president as being evidence that racism is dead. It isn't, of course. But only among the ignorant; and that will always be the case. I think it's infuriated whites that charges of racism continue to get levied by the likes of Sharpton and Jackson -- pointing to Obama as clear and convincing evidence that we've come a long way, baby!!

    What I'm most disappointed in re the Obama presidency, is that the First Lady didn't set her sights on saving generations of black children being thrown away by a society that hasn't yet found a way to get them a satisfactory education.

    Oh! The difference she might have made in eight years...
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    Re: Has the election of a black POTUS led to more, no or less racsim in America?

    I don't know if racism is any more common or widespread than any other time, but I do think it's more publicly expressed than it has been in the past. I don't think it's because white people hate black people more or less because of Obama, but rather the fact it can now be acceptable to say and there are "clever" ways to say it. As someone else noted, and I agree with, "What other president was asked to show his birth certificate. And comments like Obama is unamerican, a communist, a dictator etc. are all about who he really is, BLACK.", not to mention the constant insistence Obama is a Muslim trying to ruin America. Those are cloaked attacks of racism, but they are acceptable forms, because they are disguised in the form of political attacks.

    In the end, I don't know if racism has increased or not, but I do think it's been more publicly apparent.

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