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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    You mean like income tax?

    Yeah, but lots of luck on that one.



    Maybe I should have said "its a free country UNTIL some politician figures out a way to get his hands in your pockets".

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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You think liberals (who comprise of the unemployed, students, and ivory tower academics) are EVER going to understand this? Of course not, they've never spent a day at an actual business in their entire lives!

    Besides, they're too busy kissing French ass and apologizing for our success in the world.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Yes but they are the exceptions most things don't last more than 10 years nowadays
    I have to disagree with that completely. Our "new" kitchen is 10 years old and I expect it to last another 15 years at least considering we bought good quality appliances. The average car is 10 years old, which means half of them are older than that. Tractors of all kinds are kept on and off the road for decades. Houses last decades if not over a century, though there have already been changes in that area from pre-WWII houses. Buildings last even longer, especially sky scrappers.


    And all that is before we even get into the fitment issues, having to change several things over at near the same time.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Well I've already described a solution to this. Yes, it would be extremely expensive to switch right now cold turkey. We have to ease into it. We need to have two systems for a while. Declare SI the primary system of units, and imperial the secondary. Teach both, create new products in SI, grandfather old products in imperial. After a few decades it'll be gone entirely. Pain-free.

    See above. It wouldn't cost much.
    While I would be fine with seeing metric (I'm old enough to have learned both in school) it won't be nearly as easy as you might think. The cost would not be inconsequential even if you spaced it out over several decades because there will be compatibility problems and re-designing that will need to be done. You can't just replace a 1" bolt with a 26mm bolt, it might not fit into the design correctly - assuming 26mm would even be a "standard" bolt (metrics tend to be odd numbers only after 10mm). 2x4 studs and 4x8' sheets fit correctly but 50x100mm and 4x8' sheets won't fit quite right - both need to be changed at once. There are millions of the same kind of examples out there. I'd like to see it but this is why is wasn't done 40 years ago and we've got the same problems now as we did then. The only difference is there would be some good come from it because there's more world trade than ever, now, so some industries would see some savings from it.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Then you might think it quaint to hear my uncles use links when referring to surveying their farmland.
    I'm not surprised, but I actually know what a chain is, too ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    It is 7.92 inches.

    What measurement is a link

    Though now that i think about it they might have mentioned a chain instead. (66ft)

    Chain (unit) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Even in modern surveying we still call a 100' steel tape (aka engineers tape) a "chain", even though it's not 66' long. Honestly, I can't imagine anyone surveying with an old-fashioned 66' chain (100 links) - though you DO need to know the conversions into feet. 1 link = 0.66 ft. --- surveyors don't use inches.


    FYI - An acre is 10 square chains (66x66 ft x10), if you've ever wondered where that 43,560 sq.ft. came from.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    While I would be fine with seeing metric (I'm old enough to have learned both in school) it won't be nearly as easy as you might think. The cost would not be inconsequential even if you spaced it out over several decades because there will be compatibility problems and re-designing that will need to be done. You can't just replace a 1" bolt with a 26mm bolt, it might not fit into the design correctly - assuming 26mm would even be a "standard" bolt (metrics tend to be odd numbers only after 10mm). 2x4 studs and 4x8' sheets fit correctly but 50x100mm and 4x8' sheets won't fit quite right - both need to be changed at once. There are millions of the same kind of examples out there. I'd like to see it but this is why is wasn't done 40 years ago and we've got the same problems now as we did then. The only difference is there would be some good come from it because there's more world trade than ever, now, so some industries would see some savings from it.
    No, the costs would not be inconsequential, but it would have cost less in 1973 than it would in 2013, and it would cost less in 2013 than it will in 2053.

    It's inevitable, so we should quit being stubborn and just do it and get it over with.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    ... the US customary units are defined by the metric system equivolents. If you were to go ask the NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) what an 'inch' was, they'd reply "We define the inch as 25.4 millimetres." It occurs this way, because the metric system is more precise.
    The metric system isn't more precise but when the US went to the metric standard, US units were defined in those terms.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    No, the costs would not be inconsequential, but it would have cost less in 1973 than it would in 2013, and it would cost less in 2013 than it will in 2053.

    It's inevitable, so we should quit being stubborn and just do it and get it over with.
    I understand and agree but I'm not going to sugar-coat the process, either. People need to know what it is we'll be getting into by doing this and there will be a lot of mistakes while the old equipment - us humans - get used to it. I've seen more than one construction job screwed up when using meters instead of feet simply because the mistakes the construction guys would normally catch weren't being caught. That can't be the only industry where that kind of thing will happen.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Far too many have voted " no, we are fine" !!
    Oh ? Then we should be the world's most backward large nation ?
    Our present system , a mix, is a POS !
    It has become criminal to stick with it ..
    I think our people are smart enough ....I think...to upgrade and completely join the rest of the nations.

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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    So I took a trip up to Windsor quite a few years back with a cousin of mine while we were doing some business in Detroit. Anyway we were driving an old Buick Regal. When we crossed over the MPH turned to KPH and neither of us knew the conversion and the old Buick didn't have both on the dash. Very interesting trying to gauge the speed limit since every driver on the road seemed to be going on at a different rate of speed. It was dumb luck we didn't get a ticket because we sure as hell were going over, and with IL plates them Canucks would of loved to give us the business I'm sure. After that I made sure to learn it and have been an advocate to change America to it ever since.

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