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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    How is that relevant to your remark that switching to the metric system because the rest of the world is doing it is the same as jumping off a cliff cause someone else does? Switching to metric is nothing like jumping off a cliff in general it just simplifies life. Having everyone on the same system works best for everyone.
    Then switch because of that. Not because "everyone else is doing it".
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Because we so often need to know how many feet are in a mile....... I do know that answer by the way
    It's a fundamental part of being an adult to understand the system of measurements of the society around you. Most Americans couldn't tell you how many ounces are in a pound either.

    It's really time for us to get rid of this crap. We need to ease into it though, just start teaching both systems, and making all new devices and signs in SI. All previous devices can be grandfathered in. Eventually it'll be gone.

    There is absolutely zero benefit to keeping the imperial system. In fact, it's screwing us in a lot of ways. For instance, the Mars Climate Orbiter, a satellite we launched to orbit Mars, ended up crashing into the surface because a bit of software was written in imperial units instead of SI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Then switch because of that. Not because "everyone else is doing it".
    Well there's a reason everyone's doing it: it's simply superior in every way.

    We have structured our society to be a base 10 society. It is only natural that our system of measurements is also base 10. Imperial isn't base anything, each unit is completely arbitrary. 12 inches to a foot, 16 oz to a lb, 5,280 feet to a mile.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Then switch because of that. Not because "everyone else is doing it".
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Some thoughts:

    Having different electrical standards and plugs is more annoying than differing measures and there are many things between countries that have to be converted: currency, language, laws, etc.

    Those discussing the calendar: WRONG THREAD, that's formatting, not a measurement standard that is different.

    The metric system being more accurate? WRONG. Using whole numbers, the metric system is more precise. If you go to decimal places, they are equally accurate

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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Some thoughts:

    Having different electrical standards and plugs is more annoying than differing measures and there are many things between countries that have to be converted: currency, language, laws, etc.

    Those discussing the calendar: WRONG THREAD, that's formatting, not a measurement standard that is different.

    The metric system being more accurate? WRONG. Using whole numbers, the metric system is more precise. If you go to decimal places, they are equally accurate
    There is no uniformity in imperial. Each unit is comprised of different numbers. IE: 12 inches to a foot, 16 oz to a lb, 5,280 feet to a mile. Decimals are also completely incompatible with the imperial system, so what you're describing won't work. That's why they have to use fractions, which is ridiculous. .0625 oz in a pound? Really?

    In SI everything is base 10, in both directions. It's also the standard for engineering and scientific notation.

    1X10^12 = tera
    1X10^9 = giga
    1X10^6 = mega
    1X10^3 = kilo
    1x10^-3 = milli
    1x10^-6 = micro
    1x10^-9 = nano
    1x10^-12 = pico

    This one standard applies to almost every single unit, whether it be electrical values, volume, mass, length, etc. etc. etc.

    It's the easiest to learn, the easiest to remember, and the most efficient and logical. Remembering this one set of values means you know 99% of the SI system.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    There is no uniformity in imperial. Each unit is comprised of different numbers. IE: 12 inches to a foot, 16 oz to a lb, 5,280 feet to a mile.

    In SI everything is base 10, in both directions. It's also the standard for engineering notation.

    1X10^12 = tera
    1X10^9 = giga
    1X10^6 = mega
    1X10^3 = kilo
    1x10^-3 = milli
    1x10^-6 = micro
    1x10^-9 = nano
    1x10^-12 = pico

    This one standard applies to almost every single unit, whether it be electrical values, volume, mass, length, etc. etc. etc.

    It's the easiest to learn, the easiest to remember, and the most efficient and logical. Remembering this one set of values means you know 99% of the SI system.
    Unless you happen to have anything made using those "other" systems of measurment and wish to get replacement parts.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Unless you happen to have anything made using those "other" systems of measurment and wish to get replacement parts.
    I live in Canada We use the metric system yet I have no problems buying tools/parts in imperial.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    It would simply be too expensive to do all at once.

    If it was attempted even over the next 20 years, it would certainly not be personnel costs that people would be complaining about when it came to military spending. It would be the cost of replacing so much equipment, basically whole ships (with a few minor exceptions), and likely whole tanks and planes and trucks and other equipment.

    It simply isn't worth the cost. Sure other countries did it, but generally, the major countries did it either prior to them becoming a major industrial, machinery dependent country or their country simply doesn't care about the cost of changing things the same way ours does.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Unless you happen to have anything made using those "other" systems of measurment and wish to get replacement parts.
    Well I've already described a solution to this. Yes, it would be extremely expensive to switch right now cold turkey. We have to ease into it. We need to have two systems for a while. Declare SI the primary system of units, and imperial the secondary. Teach both, create new products in SI, grandfather old products in imperial. After a few decades it'll be gone entirely. Pain-free.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It would simply be too expensive to do all at once.

    If it was attempted even over the next 20 years, it would certainly not be personnel costs that people would be complaining about when it came to military spending. It would be the cost of replacing so much equipment, basically whole ships (with a few minor exceptions), and likely whole tanks and planes and trucks and other equipment.

    It simply isn't worth the cost. Sure other countries did it, but generally, the major countries did it either prior to them becoming a major industrial, machinery dependent country or their country simply doesn't care about the cost of changing things the same way ours does.
    See above. It wouldn't cost much.
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    Re: Should the USA adopt the International System of Units (SI)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I live in Canada We use the metric system yet I have no problems buying tools/parts in imperial.
    Then thank your neighbor to the south.
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