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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing


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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

What does this have to do with gays hating straights?
Everything. The less they are hated the less they need to hate. Fighting fire with fire, which can work but can also burn the place to the ground.
 
Here's an interesting article on the gay agenda:

"Reaching Out

In 2003, the head of New York's largest gay-rights group, the Empire State Pride Agenda, had a realization. If gays were the only people who cared about gay rights, they would lose. "In Albany, who do legislators listen to?" Alan van Capelle asked his fellow activists at a dinner at the Sheraton in Manhattan. "Corporations, labor unions, and people of faith. If we can win their support, we can win the issue."

The Quiet Gay-Rights Revolution in America's Churches - Molly Ball - The Atlantic

Pride Agenda
 
Here's an interesting article on the gay agenda:

"Reaching Out

In 2003, the head of New York's largest gay-rights group, the Empire State Pride Agenda, had a realization. If gays were the only people who cared about gay rights, they would lose. "In Albany, who do legislators listen to?" Alan van Capelle asked his fellow activists at a dinner at the Sheraton in Manhattan. "Corporations, labor unions, and people of faith. If we can win their support, we can win the issue."

The Quiet Gay-Rights Revolution in America's Churches - Molly Ball - The Atlantic

Pride Agenda
Gay agenda? Sounds like pretty normal human agenda to me.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Everything. The less they are hated the less they need to hate. Fighting fire with fire, which can work but can also burn the place to the ground.
Your original comment suggested that gays are above hatred. Now you say they're not. Why the flip flop?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Your original comment suggested that gays are above hatred. Now you say they're not. Why the flip flop?
No one is above hatred so I would never say that.
 
Because you are the problem the agenda is trying to fix.
No, I am part of a perceived problem the gays are trying to neutralize.... because of their hate.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No one is above hatred so I would never say that.
But you would suggest it, like in your original comment about gays hating people being so 1990.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

But you would suggest it, like in your original comment about gays hating people being so 1990.
There's not much need to hate now. That was the point I was making.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

There's not much need to hate now. That was the point I was making.
That's the point you are trying to make now. Your original point was to try and destroy my point by downplaying the article.

It's OK, TiredOfLife, you don't have to be tired of the truth as well.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

That's the point you are trying to make now. Your original point was to try and destroy my point by downplaying the article. It's OK, TiredOfLife, you don't have to be tired of the truth as well.
Of course I downplayed the article, it was 23 years ago and it might as well have been a 100. Got it now?
 
No, I am part of a perceived problem the gays are trying to neutralize.... because of their hate.

No, you're the actual problem. They're not hurting anyone, leave them be. Your marriage isn't any less special if SSM becomes legal. Your argument was probably used by men that didn't think women should be able to vote.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Of course I downplayed the article, it was 23 years ago and it might as well have been a 100. Got it now?
Not even close. You were suggesting that gays are above hate today, and they weren't above hate in 1990. Do you "got it now"?
 
No, you're the actual problem. They're not hurting anyone, leave them be. Your marriage isn't any less special if SSM becomes legal. Your argument was probably used by men that didn't think women should be able to vote.
We're not hurting anyone either, so we must also be left be. My marriage is a marriage because my wife and I found each other. Now my marriage is being turned into just another union, because two perverts decided to f*** with our tradition. Your argument is very much in line with the gay agenda. The question is, are you gay, or are you a tool?
 
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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Not even close. You were suggesting that gays are above hate today, and they weren't above hate in 1990. Do you "got it now"?
No one is ever above hate. You simply misread what I wrote.

It seems to bother you that they don't like you? You don't like them either so what's the problem?
 
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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No one is every above hate. You simply misread what I wrote.
No, you just couldn't stand the thought of being caught in your own deceit. Especially by a Conservative.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No, you just couldn't stand the thought of being caught in your own deceit. Especially by a Conservative.
Post it and you'll see why you are wrong. I don't care who corrects me, if they're right, but in this case you aren't.
 
We're not hurting anyone either, so we must also be left be. My marriage is a marriage because my wife and I found each other. Now my marriage is being turned into just another union, because two perverts decided to f*** with our tradition. Your argument is very much in line with the gay agenda. The question is, are you gay, or are you a tool?

No one said you aren't free to hold the position you hold. I just think you're being a tool for doing so. Besides, I don't know about you, but I married my wife because I love her and wanted to make that commitment to her. I don't care about other people's marriages, as they don't make my marriage any less special to me. You seem to want to use your marriage as some sort of selling point for yourself in your conservative niche of society. And, no, gay people getting married doesn't make your marriage less important. You and your wife are hopefully still in a loving and committed relationship. As far as me being in line with the gay agenda, I suppose I am in the sense that I'm not afraid my wife and I will somehow be less married because two other people (that love each other) got married.
 
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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Post it and you'll see why you are wrong. I don't care who corrects me, if they're right, but in this case you aren't.

You got it:

Boy does that read like long ago history, which it is in societal attitudes. 1990? It might as well be 1890.
This was in response to my asking why homosexuals hate us.

There's only one way to take your response, and that is that you were suggesting that today's homosexuals are above hatred.

So, once again, why the flip flop?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

You got it:

This was in response to my asking why homosexuals hate us.

There's only one way to take your response, and that is that you were suggesting that today's homosexuals are above hatred.

So, once again, why the flip flop?

No, that's not the only way to take that response. He just meant that things have changed a lot, so there's no need to be so extreme these days. But, of course gay people probably aren't too fond of you.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No, that's not the only way to take that response. He just meant that things have changed a lot, so there's no need to be so extreme these days. But, of course gay people probably aren't too fond of you.
That is correct.
 
No, I am part of a perceived problem the gays are trying to neutralize.....

Perceived problem? Do you mean lack of intelligence, monumental ignorance, complete dishonesty, utter dogmatism and really pathetic attempts to portray the targets of your persecution as being the instigators?
 
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