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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing


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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

As far as you believe.

No, it's really hurting no one. Your marriage isn't invalidated because a same sex couple got married. Besides, no one is saying you have to approve of the marriages. We're just saying that the state shouldn't discriminate.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No, it's really hurting no one.
Really, as far as you believe that is the case.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Really, as far as you believe that is the case.

Nope, it's true. Can you demonstrate some physical/financial (financial harm not also caused by more heterosexual couples getting married) harm done to your marriage should SSM be legal everywhere? Moral harm doesn't count, since your argument amounts to "I don't like it." unless you can show some harm to yourself.
 
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Nope, it's true. Can you demonstrate some physical/financial (financial harm not also caused by more heterosexual couples getting married) harm done to your marriage should SSM be legal everywhere? Moral harm doesn't count, since your argument amounts to "I don't like it." unless you can show some harm to yourself.
It's for the sake of my kid, and anyone else's for that matter. If I want my son to attend the local public school, then I want him to attend it knowing that some radical is not feeding him information about homosexuality that conflicts with what we're teaching him at home.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

It's for the sake of my kid, and anyone else's for that matter. If I want my son to attend the local public school, then I want him to attend it knowing that some radical is not feeding him information about homosexuality that conflicts with what we're teaching him at home.

It sounds like you're trying to use a slippery slope argument. Sure, they'll likely learn that it's legal, but that would just be a fact. Are you afraid your kid is going to all of a sudden want to marry someone of the same sex? :lol:
 
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It's for the sake of my kid, and anyone else's for that matter. If I want my son to attend the local public school, then I want him to attend it knowing that some radical is not feeding him information about homosexuality that conflicts with what we're teaching him at home.

That's what home schooling is for. Then those same home-schooled kids can grow up and torture us on this debate form with their proud and endless use of logical fallacies.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

It's for the sake of my kid, and anyone else's for that matter. If I want my son to attend the local public school, then I want him to attend it knowing that some radical is not feeding him information about homosexuality that conflicts with what we're teaching him at home.

Are you so unsure of your conviction that you don't feel it will stand up to comparison with the views of others? Shouldn't the right answer be identifiable and prove itself correct on its own merits? Why are you afraid to allow your child to learn opposing views and critically examine them?
 
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Are you so unsure of your conviction that you don't feel it will stand up to comparison with the views of others? Shouldn't the right answer be identifiable and prove itself correct on its own merits? Why are you afraid to allow your child to learn opposing views and critically examine them?
Yes I'm unsure, especially for younger kids. I want the first 14 or 15 years to arm my kids with the truth. Leave the proof and critical analysis to Senior High School or even College. Are you so sure of your views that you want a crack at young, impressionable minds?
 
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Yes I'm unsure, especially for younger kids. I want the first 14 or 15 years to arm my kids with the truth. Leave the proof and critical analysis to Senior High School or even College. Are you so sure of your views that you want a crack at young, impressionable minds?

There's not harm in them learning that something is legal.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Are you so unsure of your conviction that you don't feel it will stand up to comparison with the views of others?
Others meaning kids? No. My kid will handle himself just fine with other kids. It's the adults I'm hesitant over -- the authority figures. I'll put my kid's skills up against any of his peers, but I will not tolerate a rabid gay activist teacher wagging its finger in his face.

Shouldn't the right answer be identifiable and prove itself correct on its own merits? Why are you afraid to allow your child to learn opposing views and critically examine them?
Leave that to college or even the senior year of high school. The first 16 or 17 years are mine. Somebody has to arm these kids with the truth, and pervert degenerates are not the ones to do it.
 
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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

There's not harm in them learning that something is legal.
There's no harm in them learning that its illegal in the sight of God.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

That's what home schooling is for. Then those same home-schooled kids can grow up and torture us on this debate form with their proud and endless use of logical fallacies.
Somebody has to warn the unwashed masses... :attn1:
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

There's no harm in them learning that its illegal in the sight of God.

That's what church and the home is for. If you want to protect them from "dangerous" ideas the only viable option is to take them out of school (and public, come to think of it).
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Somebody has to warn the unwashed masses... :attn1:

Oh, so you're home schooled then?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

There's no harm in them learning that its illegal in the sight of God.

There's no harm in them learning that some people think that. I agree, as long as they're not taught in such a way as to incite violence towards gay couples.
 
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That's what church and the home is for. If you want to protect them from "dangerous" ideas the only viable option is to take them out of school (and public, come to think of it).
No, we'll keep things the way they've been. The real danger is in the minds of bored revisionists. You people need to be silenced. ;)
 
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Oh, so you're home schooled then?
Nope. But I ride under the same flag. We may not be able to convince the Democrat/Communist types, but it never hurts to at least tell them.
 
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Others meaning kids? No. My kid will handle himself just fine with other kids. It's the adults I'm hesitant over -- the authority figures. I'll put my kid's skills up against any of his peers, but I will not tolerate a rabid gay activist teacher wagging its finger in his face.

Leave that to college or even the senior year of high school. The first 16 or 17 years are mine. Somebody has to arm these kids with the truth, and pervert degenerates are not the ones to do it.

So yes, you are afraid that your child is smart enough to critically examine the things you say compared with others, and arrive at a reasoned conclusion that does not match your views. Because apparently what these other "authority figures" (I assume you mean teachers) are saying makes so much more sense than what you're saying that even though it's supposedly wrong, it's a much more reasonable argument than yours. Shouldn't "the truth", as you put it, be the most compelling argument?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

So yes, you are afraid that your child is smart enough to critically examine the things you say compared with others, and arrive at a reasoned conclusion that does not match your views. Because apparently what these other "authority figures" (I assume you mean teachers) are saying makes so much more sense than what you're saying that even though it's supposedly wrong, it's a much more reasonable argument than yours. Shouldn't "the truth", as you put it, be the most compelling argument?

Not when it comes to the religious fanatic it isn't. They don't care about the truth, they care about their heartfelt religious beliefs. Since we know that the more intelligent and well-educated one is, the less likely they are to hold religious beliefs, especially fundamentalist religious beliefs, the overly-religious are right to fear knowledge, it will just drive their absurd religions into the ground faster than normal. The last thing these people want is for their kids to know "the truth" because the truth has nothing to do with their idiotic beliefs.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

So yes, you are afraid that your child is smart enough to critically examine the things you say compared with others,
So no, you didn't get what I just wrote you. I told you that pitting an impressionable mind against the lies of a gay activist teacher is unfair. Once he's in college, everything will be just fine.

and arrive at a reasoned conclusion that does not match your views.
Hold on there, tough gal. Give me an example of how you think a teacher's "reasoned conclusion" would blow my conclusion out of the water.

Because apparently what these other "authority figures" (I assume you mean teachers) are saying makes so much more sense than what you're saying that even though it's supposedly wrong, it's a much more reasonable argument than yours. Shouldn't "the truth", as you put it, be the most compelling argument?
You're a Socialist. Of course the teachers make more sense to you. Anything that has to do with HUGE government, ZERO morality, and lots and lots of anti-Christian rhetoric is absolute truth. The problem is, you are a Socialist, and that means your value system doesn't compute here. No, I don't trust my kid against a polished adult liar. Not until he's been sufficiently armed and matured.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

So no, you didn't get what I just wrote you. I told you that pitting an impressionable mind against the lies of a gay activist teacher is unfair. Once he's in college, everything will be just fine.

Hold on there, tough gal. Give me an example of how you think a teacher's reasoned conclusion would blow my conclusion out of the water.

You're a Socialist. Of course the teachers make more sense to you. Anything that has to do with HUGE government, ZERO morality, and lots and lots of anti-Christian rhetoric is absolute truth. The problem is, you are a Socialist, and that means your value system doesn't compute here. No, I don't trust my kid against a polished adult liar. Not until he's been sufficiently armed and matured.

What makes one an activist? Challenging preconceptions? Requiring use of scientific method and data? Pushing for critical thought? I remember a nun who once told me if we didn't challenge our faith, it wasn't worth believing. Was she an activist teacher?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

What makes one an activist?
Someone who pushes an agenda. In this case it's people who push the gay agenda.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Someone who pushes an agenda. In this case it's people who push the gay agenda.

As opposed to you that push an anti-gay agenda?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Someone who pushes an agenda. In this case it's people who push the gay agenda.

As if you don't have an agenda
 
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