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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing


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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Follow the quote tree back. It's obvious.
Maybe. .... Maybe not. I wouldn't take bets.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Follow the quote tree back. It's obvious.
Actually it's not. First off, I'm not sure that I've seen any links to credible sources, and I've acknowledged the points where I have misspoken. So, yeah, that leaves your opinions. Now, I realize that most of you feel your opinions are same as law, but I'm here to tell you that is total horse ****.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

As it happens consistently in nature and in 10% of the population, and always has, it can reasonably be argued it is quite normal.
It's an abnormal occurrence.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

It's an abnormal occurrence.

No, we had lots of things that normal effect a small percentage of the population. This is normal. It happens consistently and with regularity, thus normal.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Let's discuss the points I need to have corrected. Pick one and let's chat. ;)

Your habit on this thread of telling people what to do,think and believe is a good place to start.
Here is my take on that.I think it is not a very nice thing for you to keep doing on this thread and a think you should stop that and let others think for themselves.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Your habit on this thread of telling people what to do,think and believe is a good place to start.
Here is my take on that.I think it is not a very nice thing for you to keep doing on this thread and a think you should stop that and let others think for themselves.
We're all told what to think and believe, Verthaine, and quite frequently. Now, let's say I hold a gun to your head and tell you what to think and believe. Now there, you would have something. But I'm not holding a gun to your head, and you have the freedom (and luxury) of simply tuning me out. You are FREE Verthaine, please understand this. Everyone is free to say and do what they want. The day someone sticks a gun to our heads and tell us otherwise, is the day you have a point. Besides, it's disingenuous of you to sit there and lay this on me, only.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No, we had lots of things that normal effect a small percentage of the population. This is normal. It happens consistently and with regularity, thus normal.
Decisions are at the core of homosexuality, not genetics.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Decisions are at the core of homosexuality, not genetics.

Not really. That's another excuse haters tell themselves. They are attracted to and love each other, same as you are to whatever gender you're attracted to and love. Without a valid and just reason to say no, they should not be hindered any more than you. Not in this country.

So to recap:

1) the essence of the genetics is attraction and not the act.

2) it is normal as it happens consistently and with regularity.

3) in this country, they a free not to believe hat you believe.

4) there is room for doubt concerning what the Bible says on the issue.

I think that's enough for now.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

There is a difference between agreeing with something and tolerating it. The Christian community as a whole my end up tolerating homosexuality and all that comes with it... but I do not believe that they will ever agree with it.

Legally, I do see this as something where the gay community should be allowed to marry, civil union, each other... and then we as parents need to educated our children what we feel is right and wrong.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Scientology will most certainly fall under the unmerciful cudgel of the homosexual agendists.

;)
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Decisions are at the core of homosexuality, not genetics.

How do you know this when the entirety of psychology doesn't?

What is your education background, how many studies have you done? What evidence do you have to come to this conclusion?

Or is this a fact? If so please prove it?
Is it an opinion? If so, opinions have something in common with anatomy of the human digestive tract.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Not really. That's another excuse haters tell themselves. They are attracted to and love each other, same as you are to whatever gender you're attracted to and love. Without a valid and just reason to say no, they should not be hindered any more than you. Not in this country.

So to recap:

1) the essence of the genetics is attraction and not the act.

2) it is normal as it happens consistently and with regularity.

3) in this country, they a free not to believe hat you believe.

4) there is room for doubt concerning what the Bible says on the issue.

I think that's enough for now.

Boo, this is just an opinion of his, frankly it holds no value to anybody but him. And real experts have differing opinions. He isn't an expert, I dint think he has the slightest amount of education on this subject.

Your points are correct, but I imagine if God himself walked among us and said that gay was okay doodle and others that share his opinion would be the first to demand his crucifixion.

Basically put God himself couldn't change doodles mind. He is in effect a demigod of his own religion. Please don't stop countering his baseless clearly uneducated nonsense with reality, but know this will continue until time stops.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

We're all told what to think and believe, Verthaine, and quite frequently.-
Now, let's say I hold a gun to your head and tell you what to think and believe. Now there, you would have something. But I'm not holding a gun to your head, and you have the freedom (and luxury) of simply tuning me out. You are FREE Verthaine, please understand this. Everyone is free to say and do what they want. The day someone sticks a gun to our heads and tell us otherwise, is the day you have a point. Besides, it's disingenuous of you to sit there and lay this on me, only.

There is a saying in my profession."You can't take the heat,then stay out of the kitchen".

YOU are the one who created this thread.
YOU are the one who added a poll to a thread titled "Which Religion Will Stand Against The Gay Agenda" that only had ONE RELIGION (Christianity) divided into FOUR DENOMINATIONS.
Look at the very question you first asked "I've noticed a lot of churches have been caving in to the demands of gay activists, so my question here is, which of the remaining 4 will still be standing after the dust settles?"What kind of question is that?Does Gays demanding not to be treated like second class citizens means religions "cave in" when they say "OK".
Not once have you stated what those demands are and how these churches are "caving in".

YOU are the one who has been stating OPINIONS and BELIEFS as FACTS then don't or can't backed them up when asked to do so.
Here's just one for example.Post #1507.The one DIRECTLY after the one you posted above (#1506).
Decisions are at the core of homosexuality, not genetics.
You provide absolutely no evidence,oh wait,I forgot,you are through with the providing evidence and now it's the sledgehammer approach.
Post#791
I'm through with evidence, too. You people don't need any more evidence. The next step is a sledgehammer type approach.

YOU are the one who complained about being made to "jump through hoops" when quite a number of people here told you that "Because the Bible said so" is not convincing enough evidence.

YOU are the one who has been telling people here what to think,what their opinions are,what to believe,and what they need numerous times on this thread.Which I have pointed out numerous times.
Here's an example of what I am talking about.
I'm here to tell you, not convince you. I'll let Detroit do the convincing.

Here's another.Post #1444 in your reply to Boo Bradley
"And every belief you have must be cleared by atheists. How does it feel to be answering to anti-Christians? Do they extend you the same courtesy on spiritual matters?"

And now you want to talk about freedom and about ME being disingenuous?
You seem to have no problem talking about other peoples sins,but the moment someone points out YOUR sins (in this case VANITY) there's a problem.

Actually,I think it is appropriate and quite fair to "lay this all on you,only".
As you yourself pointed out,YOU created this thread.

You are right,though, I am FREE, I have the freedom (and luxury) to tune you out,but I also have the freedom (and luxury) to say "I think it is not a very nice thing for you to keep on telling people what to do,think, and believe on this thread and a think you should stop that and let others think for themselves."
YOU have the freedom (and luxury) to tune ME out.
Fine by me if you do.
 
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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

SSM is perfectly healthy and normal.... in your opinion. Yup, think I got it. ;)

Ah. You don't know the difference between opinions and verifiable facts. That explains a lot.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Homosexuality is abnormal. Heterosexuality is normal. That's the only content you need to have.

More demonstration that you don't understand the issue or how to discuss it. Please continue. You are doing an excellent job of showing how non-credible your positions are.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Thank you for proving once again that you have a bad habit of telling people what to do,what to think,what to say,and what to believe.



Note: Above bolding is mine

And you know what CC is thinking how?
Whether Capt.C agrees or disagrees,that is for HIM to make that statement,not you or me.
In my opinion you should have phrased your statement in a form of a question.

I wouldn't of had any objection if you did it that way.

What Capt.C "thinks" is up to HIM to say he,if he chooses to.
You could have ASKED him what his opinion is,instead of telling everyone here what HIS opinion is.

Actually, I do not believe that he is trying to tell me how to think... he'd fail if he was. No, he is doing something else, and has been for several days.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

How do you know this when the entirety of psychology doesn't?
Because anyone who isn't a complete liar knows both APA's have been hijacked by the Left. The entire field has been compromised thanks to radical activists. It would be foolish to take anything they say about this subject as truth.
 
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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Scientology will most certainly fall under the unmerciful cudgel of the homosexual agendists.

;)
I thought they already have, and that they went willingly.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

There is a saying in my profession."You can't take the heat,then stay out of the kitchen".
I love the kitchen. At one point, I was a hare's breath away from becoming a chef, myself.

YOU are the one who created this thread.
YOU are the one who added a poll to a thread titled "Which Religion Will Stand Against The Gay Agenda" that only had ONE RELIGION (Christianity) divided into FOUR DENOMINATIONS.
Look at the very question you first asked "I've noticed a lot of churches have been caving in to the demands of gay activists, so my question here is, which of the remaining 4 will still be standing after the dust settles?"What kind of question is that?Does Gays demanding not to be treated like second class citizens means religions "cave in" when they say "OK".
Not once have you stated what those demands are and how these churches are "caving in".
1. Check. 2. I listed the top four religions in the US, according to membership numbers. That was as many as I could add and still have the other poll options. 3. What I'm saying is, one man's claim to a certain right, is another man's nuisance, or even threat to society. Example: In the US, it has taken multiple attempts to sway people to accept the notion of gay marriage. Even California, a blue state, was slow on the uptake, having rejected the proposition before finally caving in. The point is, homosexual rights (and liberalism in general) cannot exist unless someone(s) is/are force feeding those ideals.

YOU are the one who has been stating OPINIONS and BELIEFS as FACTS then don't or can't backed them up when asked to do so.
My work here is pretty much as complete as anyone else's on this forum. Your inability to see that is not my problem.

YOU are the one who complained about being made to "jump through hoops" when quite a number of people here told you that "Because the Bible said so" is not convincing enough evidence.
I am the one who stated that I'm not jumping through hoops. Again, it's not my fault that the Bible doesn't carry any weight here. The APA justifying wrong behaviors doesn't carry any weight with honest Conservatives, either. Again, it's all in which side of the fence you're really on. Again, you seem to prefer the Left side.

YOU are the one who has been telling people here what to think,what their opinions are,what to believe,and what they need numerous times on this thread.Which I have pointed out numerous times.
Here's an example of what I am talking about.
YOU are the one pointing YOUR finger. I am the ONLY one YOU are having this conversation with. Stop pointing YOUR finger and look around YOU.
 
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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Because anyone who isn't a complete liar knows both APA's have been hijacked by the Left. The entire field has been compromised thanks to radical activists. It would be foolish to take anything they say about this subject as truth.

There's actually some truth to that and any open minded person, or anyone just trained to catch on to individual bias when reading through articles would pick up on that.

That's not to say that they're necessarily wrong when it comes to the basics regarding science on homosexuality, they actually are in basic agreement with NARTH on that but one just stresses biological influences over environmental.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

There's actually some truth to that and any open minded person, or anyone just trained to catch on to individual bias when reading through articles would pick up on that.

That's not to say that they're necessarily wrong when it comes to the basics regarding science on homosexuality, they actually are in basic agreement with NARTH on that but one just stresses biological influences over environmental.

So, explain where the bias is at.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Because anyone who isn't a complete liar knows both APA's have been hijacked by the Left. The entire field has been compromised thanks to radical activists. It would be foolish to take anything they say about this subject as truth.

So because they say something you don't want to accept, they were hijacked by the all powerful left? Wait, are they activists and radials or are they left? Or are these all synonyms for people that don't agree with you?

It would be foolish to reject things that the APA says because of some idiotic conspiracy theory where the "left"is out to get you.

I am more or less conservative, I don't agree that the left has hijacked everything.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I am more or less conservative, I don't agree that the left has hijacked everything.

I'm conservative too and I think that both the left and the right are equally responsible for hijacking social and political power wherever they can get their slimy hands on it. Neither side is guiltless and neither side is completely guilty. Both sides suck.
 
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