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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing

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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
That's exactly right, Quag. That's why it's important for people to know that it is perfectly OK to let homosexuals live without giving them the right to corrupt the tradition of marriage. ;)
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marriage will not be corrupted by SSM.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Boo Radley said:
The rules of logic are that you don't go about disproving anything. You prove. Frankly, the burden of proof is really on the believer. Even if you believe theories like evolution are not proven, you have to provide at least as much evidence as the evolution theorist if you're going to back your claim.
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When you see a building you know it has a creator, when you see the earth you know the same. You are too intricate to have just happened. Not to mention, the Creator himself told us what happened and gave us rules for life.

You can't expect science to prove creation because it can't. It was supernatural. Science is not the end all be all authority, it just isn't.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Quag said:
marriage will not be corrupted by SSM.
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It does fundamentally change what marriage is and thus in effect destroys it as a civil institution.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Quag said:
marriage will not be corrupted by SSM.
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In your opinion, but you are wrong. Marriage is sacred, so not only does SSM corrupt it, so does all of the other marriages that aren't based on pure reasons and don't follow their vows.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
Show me the indisputable proof. You don't show it because you don't have it.
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My god this has been belaboured to death.
Carbon dating for one no need to go on from there as it disproves your 6k year old world.

You make the (false) claim that genesis is real you prove it. in fact prove any of your belief system is real.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
Unfortunately, they were wrong. Romans is pretty clear on the subject.
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I addressed Romans both earlier and above. Romans is a misreading largely distorted by king James. So, the misreading is clear.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Boo Radley said:
The rules of logic are that you don't go about disproving anything. You prove. Frankly, the burden of proof is really on the believer. Even if you believe theories like evolution are not proven, you have to provide at least as much evidence as the evolution theorist if you're going to back your claim.
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Or you can simply convey the message and let the receiver do whatever he wishes with the information received. That's the best approach, anyways. ;)
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
In your opinion, but you are wrong. Marriage is sacred, so not only does SSM corrupt it, so does all of the other marriages that aren't based on pure reasons and don't follow their vows.
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No marriage is a civil contract recognized by the state. You can get married in a religious ceremony but if it is not recognized by the state it has no legal meaning.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
No, not true.
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No, true. This is something fundamentalists get very wrong. But feel free to provide verifiable evidence. Not just feeling or faith.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Quag said:
My god this has been belaboured to death.
Carbon dating for one no need to go on from there as it disproves your 6k year old world.

You make the (false) claim that genesis is real you prove it. in fact prove any of your belief system is real.
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And how far back is carbon dating accurate? By the way I didn't say the world is 6k years old. I hold to something closer to 10-15k.

Myths Regarding Radiocarbon Dating
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
Or you can simply convey the message and let the receiver do whatever he wishes with the information received. That's the best approach, anyways. ;)
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If you're lazy or not really seeking to betaken seriously. Sure.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
In your opinion, but you are wrong. Marriage is sacred, so not only does SSM corrupt it, so does all of the other marriages that aren't based on pure reasons and don't follow their vows.
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Only the religious sacrament of marriage is sacred, not civil marriage. That doesn't mean that I feel the civil institution of marriage isn't important and shouldn't be conserved. But there is a difference. A civil institution is not "sacred".
 
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Boo Radley said:
I addressed Romans both earlier and above. Romans is a misreading largely distorted by king James. So, the misreading is clear.
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I'm not using the King James..... :shrug:
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Quag said:
No marriage is a civil contract recognized by the state. You can get married in a religious ceremony but if it is not recognized by the state it has no legal meaning.
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That was not the origination of marriage, you do realize that right?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
When you see a building you know it has a creator, when you see the earth you know the same. You are too intricate to have just happened. Not to mention, the Creator himself told us what happened and gave us rules for life.

You can't expect science to prove creation because it can't. It was supernatural. Science is not the end all be all authority, it just isn't.
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But just seeing the building doesn't tell me the who and how. I might be willing to accept the little green toad just wished it, but I'd still have to prove that.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Artevelde said:
Only the religious sacrament of marriage is sacred, not civil marriage. That doesn't mean that I feel the civil institution of marriage isn't important and shouldn't be conserved. But there is a difference. A civil institution is not "sacred".
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Then that civil institution should receive another name, as 'marriage' is already taken.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Boo Radley said:
No, true. This is something fundamentalists get very wrong. But feel free to provide verifiable evidence. Not just feeling or faith.
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Supernatural events. Unless of course you believe God is not all-powerful, then of course you won't believe it.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Artevelde said:
Only the religious sacrament of marriage is sacred, not civil marriage. That doesn't mean that I feel the civil institution of marriage isn't important and shouldn't be conserved. But there is a difference. A civil institution is not "sacred".
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Then it is not marriage.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
Show me the indisputable proof. 100% indisputable proof.
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It is not my duty to enlighten you. You must find your own path. The path you have chosen is better than some others I can think of.

I have neither the time or inclination to get into a discussion regarding the factual possibilities regarding virgin birth, seas parting, water into wine, raising people from the dead, sticks that turn into snakes, demons cast in to a herd of swine, and the list goes on. I can accept the parable messages as simply stories to help humankind understand how to live better in society just as I understand that every Grimm's fairy tale, told to children, has a moral objective.

Neither did I involve myself in discussions regarding the powers of Dungeons and Dragon characters and their assigned powers. Because we can talk until we are blue in the face and at the end of the day, it's still only make believe.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
I'm not using the King James..... :shrug:
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All others are in one way or another based off that misreading. Learned that years ago in an actual book. The misreading s so ingrained, there is reluctance to actually change it. Like I said, reading is good.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Boo Radley said:
But just seeing the building doesn't tell me the who and how. I might be willing to accept the little green toad just wished it, but I'd still have to prove that.
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And how do you know who made the building? The builder tells you, and witnesses tell you. Guess what we have with creation?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Captain America said:
It is not my duty to enlighten you. You must find your own path. The path you have chosen is better than some others I can think of.

I have neither the time or inclination to get into a discussion regarding the factual possibilities regarding virgin birth, seas parting, water into wine, raising people from the dead, sticks that turn into snakes, demons cast in to a herd of swine, and the list goes on. I can accept the parable messages as simply stories to help humankind understand how to live better in society just as I understand that every Grimm's fairy tale, told to children, has a moral objective.

Neither did I involve myself in discussions regarding the powers of Dungeons and Dragon characters and their assigned powers. Because we can talk until we are blue in the face and at the end of the day, it's still only make believe.
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Except DD is make believe, the Bible is not.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
And how far back is carbon dating accurate? By the way I didn't say the world is 6k years old. I hold to something closer to 10-15k.

Myths Regarding Radiocarbon Dating
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non scientific religious based sites are not a good way to learn anything

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating
Carbon Dating Gets a Reset: Scientific American
Carbon Dating Background
Carbon Dating & Archaeology CyArk
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
Then that civil institution should receive another name, as 'marriage' is already taken.
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Since civil marriage - as it has existed until today - serves the same purpose as religious marriage, albeit without the religious component, I have to disagree with you.
 
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