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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing


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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I'm Jewish. I reject Paul and hold nothing of what he says as relevant. I also use the translations of ancient Hebrew that shows that the Leviticus passages deal with Purity Laws, specifically regarding Pagan rituals, NOT non-ritualistic, consensual sexual activity nor non-sexual relationships. Tell me how you deal with that.

What do you mean how I deal with that? The fact that you ignore Jesus as the Messiah and the New Testament?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No, Boo is right... and I have posted a similar treatise several times over the past few years.

And since Jude is in the NT, for me, Jude is irrelevant.

Doesn't really matter if you think it is irrelevant...... :roll:
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Actually, many have proven you wrong. Just because you refuse to accept it doesn't make it true.

Just because they think they have proven me wrong, based on twisting scripture, doesn't mean they have. Nice try though.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No you wouldn't... you'd have to ACCEPT you were proven wrong. You won't do that even though you have been.

Besides, this is not about proving you wrong, really. It is very rare that anyone accepts that their position is wrong. The purpose here, really, is to present your argument as well as possible and to refute your opponent's argument as well as possible. In this context, those opposing you have done the job quite well.

Only in your opinion.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Amazing, we a 1200 post, one-sided, anti-Christian thread about what RELIGION (Christianity being only one of them) will stand against the gay agenda. Who is going to speak up about the lack of discussion regarding Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Toaism and the other religions out there?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Amazing, we a 1200 post, one-sided, anti-Christian thread about what RELIGION (Christianity being only one of them) will stand against the gay agenda. Who is going to speak up about the lack of discussion regarding Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Toaism and the other religions out there?
They weren't on the list. A self professed Christian made the list. I don't think he sees himself, the Thad starter, as anti-Christian. Tough I suppose he could be a Poe or something.

As for the rest, the same arguments apply. None of them should stand.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Like I said, you have nothing and are blowing smoke.

If you really believed that, you'd have been specific like he asked. :coffeepap
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

If you really believed that, you'd have been specific like he asked. :coffeepap

I was specific. I want his exegetical work on 1 Corinthians, Romans, and Galatians that prove that it isn't talking about homosexuality. He keeps side-stepping because he doesn't have it. Not even sure he knows what exegetical work is.....
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

They weren't on the list. A self professed Christian made the list. I don't think he sees himself, the Thad starter, as anti-Christian. Tough I suppose he could be a Poe or something.

As for the rest, the same arguments apply. None of them should stand.

So religions shouldn't take a stand for their beliefs?
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I was specific. I want his exegetical work on 1 Corinthians, Romans, and Galatians that prove that it isn't talking about homosexuality. He keeps side-stepping because he doesn't have it. Not even sure he knows what exegetical work is.....

No, he asked for a specific verse. You cover too much ground for this format. If you want a paper, you need something linked and not typed here. I've already given you links.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No, he asked for a specific verse. You cover too much ground for this format. If you want a paper, you need something linked and not typed here. I've already given you links.

I didn't ask you actually. That being said, I have listed the specific verses, MANY times.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

So religions shouldn't take a stand for their beliefs?

They shouldn't believe hateful bigoted things. These beliefs harm humanity and not uplift the human.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I didn't ask you actually. That being said, I have listed the specific verses, MANY times.

Didn't say you did ask me. Only that I did give you links.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

They shouldn't believe hateful bigoted things. These beliefs harm humanity and not uplift the human.

In your opinion. Now you want to tell religions what they should or shouldn't believe, should or shouldn't do? Hmmmm, this sounds familiar.......
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Social pressure changed the laws just as social pressures will change the church. The church never leads on matters of human rights.
They can agree to change, or disappear...
...their choice.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Like I said, you have nothing and are blowing smoke.

Don't allow me to waste your time any longer. Continue with your preconceived notions. You never were interested in abandoning your will any way.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Social pressure changed the laws just as social pressures will change the church. The church never leads on matters of human rights.
They can agree to change, or disappear...
...their choice.

The Church has a track record of outlasting those who told it to disappear.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Don't allow me to waste your time any longer. Continue with your preconceived notions. You never were interested in abandoning your will any way.

What an argument, what evidence..... oh wait.... I asked you for the work you claim to have done and you don't provide anything. Lame.

Give me your exegetical work on 1 Corinthians 6
Give me your exegetical work on Romans 1
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Am I the only one wondering why the church of scientology wasn't included on the list?


I mean, if John Travolta and Ton Cruise haven't "stood up" in the face of a certain gay agenda, then nobody has!
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

They shouldn't believe hateful bigoted things. These beliefs harm humanity and not uplift the human.

Not to mention that it damages one's personal credibility when they start debating using myths, legends and superstitions, that defy all sense of logic and reason, as the basis for their beliefs.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Not to mention that it damages one's personal credibility when they start debating using myths, legends and superstitions, that defy all sense of logic and reason, as the basis for their beliefs.

and what is really silly is how the one they claim to follow warned them to not listen to false prophets claiming to speak for God and to follow only Him.

So, what do they do? They follow Paul. They cherry pick from the O.T. They listen to the crazy preacher man thumping away on his pulpit. They follow each other. They listen to their own fears. They follow anything BUT Jesus.

I'm reminded of the way that Jesus says very directly to not be like play actors when praying and to do it behind closed doors in private, so the same Pharisees make it their mission to force their ultra-conservative interpretations of Christianity into every nook and cranny of public life.

Play actors, indeed!
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

In your opinion. Now you want to tell religions what they should or shouldn't believe, should or shouldn't do? Hmmmm, this sounds familiar.......

It's just an opinion dude. I have no authority to make anyone do anything, so don't get all hyperbolic.

But it is my opinion.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

It's just an opinion dude. I have no authority to make anyone do anything, so don't get all hyperbolic.

But it is my opinion.

So then why do you get so bent out of shape over my opinons?
 
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