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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing

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re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
Did I say that it didn't? I said that is not what Sodomite means though. And it was about Homosexuality actually. Men having sex with men.
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Like I said, you don't understand the story of Sodom and Gommorah, nor what sodomy means. It does not mean men having sex with men. It is defined as any sexual act that is not penile-vaginal in nature.

You really need to learn these definitions. Not knowing them makes your arguments look really bad.
 
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Dooble said:
Correction: Gay behavior is bad. Please get it right, mmmkay?
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Correction: your OPINION on this is irrelevant. Morality is relative.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
Correction: your OPINION on this is irrelevant. Morality is relative.
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The morality if God is absolute. Morality is not relative. What's wrong is wrong.
 
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digsbe said:
The morality if God is absolute. Morality is not relative. What's wrong is wrong.
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When you can prove that your imaginary friend is real, then you can make that claim. Until then, you're wrong.
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
You do not understand me, nor the Bible.
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Haircuts, shellfish, mixed material clothing, eating fat (bacon), touching dirty animals, tearing your clothes, drinking alcohol in holy places, eating pig, going to church withing 33 days after birthing a boy, going to church within 66 days of birthing a girl, having sex with a woman on her period, having sex with the neighbors wife, Having sex with a man “as one does with a woman” (vaginal sex), bestiality, stealing, lying, trimming your beard, getting tattoos, etc.

Why don't you go picket that stuff and see how far you get.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Quag said:
Slavery was once legal does that mean it should still be? To equate legality with right is erroneous. Laws change over time to reflect society.
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Which slavery was also abolished by a Liberal.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
I'm talking about HOW you change the laws. Democrats largely ignore laws they disagree with when they're instituting change they can believe in. That's the difference.
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Sorry. Liberals are not Democrats.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Captain America said:
Man, I get called 'liberal," so often by the rightwing nutter's I lost count. Then, in the next thread, I get called a, "right wing facist," by the tree hugging liberals.

It ain't easy being me!

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You must be bi
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Harekin said:
Sorry. Liberals are not Democrats.
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No, I'M sorry.

Liberals, Democrats, Leftists, Communists, Socialists, they're all interchangeable and synonymous.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Quag said:
care to explain why? BTW if you go to the bible you have failed before you even start typing
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That sounds fair. Of course, you don't get to counter with any source that can be traced to anything that even looks, sounds or smells like Liberalism, Leftism or the Democrat Party. This includes your own opinion. Agreed?
 
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Dooble said:
No, I'M sorry.

Liberals, Democrats, Leftists, Communists, Socialists, they're all interchangeable and synonymous.
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Not true. Liberals do not agree with everything a Democrat would say. You are forgetting that government ideology is just a scale of which the political parties weigh themselves on. about 150 years ago Republicans were more Liberal. And funny. Communists and Socialists are not Liberals. Perhaps you should learn more about politics if you are only going to make false statements like this.
 
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winston53660 said:
You must be bi
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Well, it looks like, if I'm going to get any poonanny in the near future, I'm gonna have to buy it. If that's what you mean, maybe you're on to something. LOL!
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
That sounds fair. Of course, you don't get to counter with any source that can be traced to anything that even looks, sounds or smells like Liberalism, Leftism or the Democrat Party. This includes your own opinion. Agreed?
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Well Im am neither a leftist nor a democrat so nice try with the brush there. And I will keep my opinions out if you can back up your statements without using yours.
 
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Harekin said:
Not true. Liberals do not agree with everything a Democrat would say. You are forgetting that government ideology is just a scale of which the political parties weigh themselves on. about 150 years ago Republicans were more Liberal. And funny. Communists and Socialists are not Liberals. Perhaps you should learn more about politics if you are only going to make false statements like this.
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The only difference between Communists/Socialists and Liberals, is that the former is honest about who they are and what they stand for.
 
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Dooble said:
The only difference between Communists/Socialists and Liberals, is that the former is honest about who they are and what they stand for.
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Now that is stupid hyperbole.
 
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digsbe said:
The morality if God is absolute. Morality is not relative. What's wrong is wrong.
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No, morality is relative. Your morality is your own and does not apply to anyone else. Wrong is subjective.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
No, morality is relative. Your morality is your own and does not apply to anyone else. Wrong is subjective.
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God's morality applies to everyone. When they die they are judged by Him, not their peers and not by themselves.

If I have power my morality applies to others. We set morals into law and they become right and wrong for society because society has the power to enforce it. We largely deem it immoral to murder, it's wrong to take another human life outside of self defense. Someone may have their own personal view of a "survival of the fittest" mentality and justify it, but they are still wrong when judged by the higher power (in this case being the law). In much the same way people will be judge by God's higher law over them.
 
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re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

digsbe said:
God's morality applies to everyone. When they die they are judged by Him, not their peers and not by themselves.
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We are not talking about God's morality. We are talking about your perception of God's morality.
 
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Harekin said:
Haircuts, shellfish, mixed material clothing, eating fat (bacon), touching dirty animals, tearing your clothes, drinking alcohol in holy places, eating pig, going to church withing 33 days after birthing a boy, going to church within 66 days of birthing a girl, having sex with a woman on her period, having sex with the neighbors wife, Having sex with a man “as one does with a woman” (vaginal sex), bestiality, stealing, lying, trimming your beard, getting tattoos, etc.

Why don't you go picket that stuff and see how far you get.
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Jesus fulfilled the ceremonial laws, they no longer apply for Christians.
 
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digsbe said:
God's morality applies to everyone. When they die they are judged by Him, not their peers and not by themselves.
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And what actually is God's morality is not up to you to interpret.

If I have power my morality applies to others. We set morals into law and they become right and wrong for society because society has the power to enforce it. We largely deem it immoral to murder, it's wrong to take another human life outside of self defense. Someone may have their own personal view of a "survival of the fittest" mentality and justify it, but they are still wrong when judged by the higher power (in this case being the law). In much the same way people will be judge by God's higher law over them.
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You just showed how morality is relative based on societal norms and society's interpretation of God's words.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
And what actually is God's morality is not up to you to interpret.
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God's morality is clearly written in the Bible, we can interpret it but if we are wrong we are wrong. Someone can incorrectly say that the Bible approves of homosexuality or any other sin that they want to feel comfortable committing or supporting, but it doesn't make it true. That's why it's crucial to read the Bible in context with prayer guided by the Holy Spirit.
You just showed how morality is relative based on societal norms and society's interpretation of God's words.
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No, I gave an example. Just as how human laws are a higher power when humans do immoral things, God's laws are a higher power that all humans will be judged under when they die. Someone can hold their relative beliefs about something and be wrong because absolute exists and truth is knowable. Humans can change human laws, God can change His laws, but the laws on the books are absolute. if someone murders and they are judged it is absolutely a crime, in much the same way if someone sins they will be judged for it and it will absolutely be sin.
 
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Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
I've noticed a lot of churches have been caving in to the demands of gay activists, so my question here is, which of the remaining 4 will still be standing after the dust settles?
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The churches will make whatever decision they wish to make. And that's fine, freedom of religion and all.
 
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digsbe said:
God's morality is clearly written in the Bible,
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Clearly? So no fabric blends? Stoning of women should be standard? All the things that contradict each other should be simultaneously carried out? Clearly? I don't know if you understand the meaning of that word.
 
Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

CaptainCourtesy said:
No, morality is relative. Your morality is your own and does not apply to anyone else. Wrong is subjective.
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This is an interesting philosophical dilemma. If there is a God, then there is a truth. If that God has rules, then morality is absolute. The fact that man does not know God nor know God's rules does not change the fact that morality is absolute. If one has a belief, then they also believe that morality is absolute.

Of course, if there is no God, the concept of morality is considerably different. For one, morality becomes more about ethics than morals as virtue is more rooted in philosophy than truth. In that case, "morality" is relative.

When you suggest that morality is relative, that statement is more about ethics: respecting the rights of others to have different belief systems. Despite the fact that people have different belief systems, not all of them are correct; in fact, most of them (the specific systems) will be wrong.
 
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