• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing

  • Total voters
    82
  • Poll closed .
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
You assume it is a right. I contend that it is not.
Click to expand...

You don't have the right to say who can do this or that.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Harekin said:
With this many people on Earth, maybe we don't need that many offspring anymore?
Click to expand...
Population control is a conversation best saved for members of the Third World.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Dooble said:
Population control is a conversation best saved for members of the Third World.
Click to expand...

Hey, come on. You can't say heterosexuals are procreation when they have unwanted babies. At least homosexuals aren't having unwanted children.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
Oh good grief, Jesus' words are not the only thing in the Bible for the thousandth time. Jesus put value on the other parts of the Bible as well, you do realize that right?
Click to expand...

Everything Jesus said was from the Old Testament.

[10b] The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
Click to expand...

[24b] These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.
Click to expand...

John 14 NIV - Jesus Comforts His Disciples -
 
Last edited:
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Harekin said:
Not a failed argument. You are putting man's word before the word of Jesus.
Click to expand...

Simply not true. God inspired the entire Bible, all Scripture is God-Breathed. Since Jesus is God, one could argue that he did in fact speak against homosexuality.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Harekin said:
You don't have the right to say who can do this or that.
Click to expand...

Wrong. We tell people what they can or cannot do with our laws every day. Nice try though.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
Wrong. We tell people what they can or cannot do with our laws every day. Nice try though.
Click to expand...

You do not have the authority to make law. Nice try though.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
How is that relevant.....
Click to expand...

I said that you don't have the right to tell who can do this or that. You don't have the authority or right to tell someone who they can and can't love.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Harekin said:
I said that you don't have the right to tell who can do this or that. You don't have the authority or right to tell someone who they can and can't love.
Click to expand...

Which isn't relevant to the conversation. Your original statment about that was not relevant. I just decided to clarify we make laws all the time. And actually yes, we all have authority as we can all have a part in lawmaking.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

CLAX1911 said:
So far it is 100% the case. Science hasn't filled a single "gap".
Click to expand...

What are you talking about, science fills gaps constantly. The whole definition of the term is that God occupies the gaps in scientific knowledge, yet as science fills those gaps and learns the real facts, believers have to keep moving to new gaps in order to maintain their belief that God is actually relevant or answers some questions. You're clearly ignorant of both science and history.

Spirituality my be fantasy to you, that further proves that science has no place in it.
Click to expand...

You're right, science has no place in ignorant fantasy and vice versa. Why you continue to argue that ignorant fantasy is a good thing is beyond me.

My beliefs don't have to be rational to you, i am not forcing you to have them or even respect them. I don't know what you are attempting to accomplish by stating that something you clearly don't understand is absurd.
Click to expand...

There's no "to me" involved. They are either rational or they are not. Rationality derives from evidence and reason and critical evaluation, three things that do not exist within religious belief. You can believe anything you want, you can believe in talking snakes and magical zombie gods all you want, that doesn't actually make them true. The fact is, I do understand it because I came from that background, but I realized that reality actually does matter and that believing something, just because I was indoctrinated into it and just because it made me feel good doesn't really mean anything. I grew up. When do you think it'll be time for you to do the same?
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
I won't receive death because I now follow Christ. Big difference.
Click to expand...

Prove it. I'm unaware of anyone who believes in any deity who does not demonstrably die.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
Jesus is not your shepherd if you openly flaunt and advocate sin. That is misguided.
Click to expand...

Jesus is my Shepard. I repent for my sins. The only thing misguided is how much you think you know.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Cephus said:
Prove it. I'm unaware of anyone who believes in any deity who does not demonstrably die.
Click to expand...

You have never heard of eternal life? Strange, that's what all Christians believe.....
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
You have never heard of eternal life? Strange, that's what all Christians believe.....
Click to expand...

Hearing about it and having it demonstrated to be factually true are two different things. Christians believe all kinds of really stupid crap.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
Simply not true. God inspired the entire Bible, all Scripture is God-Breathed. Since Jesus is God, one could argue that he did in fact speak against homosexuality.
Click to expand...

I'm not a Christian, but virtually every Christian friend I have is very loving ... yet, you're full of hate for one group or another ... Is it really that easy to reconcile your belief in God and your Christianity and the hate you have for gays, blacks, etc.?
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Cephus said:
What are you talking about, science fills gaps constantly. The whole definition of the term is that God occupies the gaps in scientific knowledge, yet as science fills those gaps and learns the real facts, believers have to keep moving to new gaps in order to maintain their belief that God is actually relevant or answers some questions. You're clearly ignorant of both science and history.
Click to expand...
there are no gaps, science can't fill what doesn't exist.

You're right, science has no place in ignorant fantasy and vice versa. Why you continue to argue that ignorant fantasy is a good thing is beyond me.
Click to expand...
Mocking that which you don't understand isn't exactly brilliant.


There's no "to me" involved.
Click to expand...
Spirituality is personal and esoteric. So there is nothing but "to me"
They are either rational or they are not. Rationality derives from evidence and reason and critical evaluation, three things that do not exist within religious belief. You can believe anything you want, you can believe in talking snakes and magical zombie gods all you want, that doesn't actually make them true.
Click to expand...
I never asked your permission to believe what I want. That statement is irrelevant, of course I can believe whatever I want, what could anybody do to stop me?

It is absolutely true. Prove that it isn't.
The fact is, I do understand it because I came from that background, but I realized that reality actually does matter and that believing something, just because I was indoctrinated into it and just because it made me feel good doesn't really mean anything. I grew up. When do you think it'll be time for you to do the same?
Click to expand...
No, you don't understand. You were indoctrinated, I was not i battle the indoctrination, its what I have been doing in this thread all along. Another reason you don't understand is because you think I believe it just because, clearly a fallacy. Its far easier not to believe.

If to "grow up" means to spiritually die, never. I would rather be mocked by people who don't understand than to agree with people incapable of believing in more than just what they can see.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

windowdressing said:
I'm not a Christian, but virtually every Christian friend I have is very loving ... yet, you're full of hate for one group or another ... Is it really that easy to reconcile your belief in God and your Christianity and the hate you have for gays, blacks, etc.?
Click to expand...

TIMEOUT:

1. I don't hate gays.
2. How in the world do you get that I hate blacks?

:spin: :alert
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

shrubnose said:
The problem is that while some of us are laughing, some of them are working hard to put bad laws in force.
Click to expand...

And some of us are working hard to stop them.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
TIMEOUT:

1. I don't hate gays.
2. How in the world do you get that I hate blacks?

:spin: :alert
Click to expand...

O.K., now I see how you do it ... :peace
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
TIMEOUT:

1. I don't hate gays.
2. How in the world do you get that I hate blacks?

:spin: :alert
Click to expand...

You just stated that I can't be Christian because of crap you were told to believe. If you don't hate gay people you sure have a funny way of showing it
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

CLAX1911 said:
You just stated that I can't be Christian because of crap you were told to believe. If you don't hate gay people you sure have a funny way of showing it
Click to expand...

Telling someone they don't qualify for something and hating them are two different things. :shrug:
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

davidtaylorjr said:
Telling someone they don't qualify for something and hating them are two different things. :shrug:
Click to expand...

Inventing a qualification that is based only on your bias and not being any body of any authority to set such a standard, furthermore saying that there is a qualification that the leaderof that group said that qualifications placed on fellowship is a violation of the core of the guiding principal.

You clearly hate gay people you blaspheme the holy spirit, you invent sins and you play prophet in order to justify excluding them.

The only person you are lying to is yourself.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom